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 Post subject: Singing? Shouting? Screaming? Vomiting?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:14 pm 
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I don't know if you've ever tried and "sing" anything in death metal manner but after three seconds I go straight to coughing and my throught hurts...so how do they do it?


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 Post subject: Re: Singing? Shouting? Screaming? Vomiting?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:33 pm 
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mikki wrote:
I don't know if you've ever tried and "sing" anything in death metal manner but after three seconds I go straight to coughing and my throught hurts...so how do they do it?


Kathaarian said something about how they draw it out of their chests rather than their throats. I tried it, and lasted slightly longer than I normally do, although I'm more at the Barney Bark than anything past that. I think it takes practise, but don't try too much, else you'll mess your voice up.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:19 pm 
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Can anyone do a black metal scream? I can do the shittiest varg ever, for quite a while, and an early arcturus/enslaved/taake/vreid kind of general scream


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:31 pm 
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My best advice to you can only be this : If it hurts, stop. It isn't supposed to hurt so early, all you can do is try to experiment with it and find a way that doesn't hurt and keep practising. Now I know that you can have a sore throat after a while but it's ok, just not in 3 seconds, you're doing it wrong.

What I do is keep my throat open, give my mouth a round shape and push the air as hard as I can with the diaphram. It just happens, you'll figure it out yourself in time, keep practising, drink a lot of water, keep your body relaxed and in order to do that try moving around the room while singing.

It may hurt after a while, stop, drink some water, wait and rest for 5 minutes, then go again. You'll see that the second time it is much easier. Go like that for a few days, I think your vocal chords get used to it and then it just doesn't hurt any more.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:39 pm 
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Gummy bears.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:46 pm 
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Drinking shit-tons of chocolate milk apparently helps, according to Mark Jansen from Epica anyway. He's always got loads of the crap onstage.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:51 pm 
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Radagast wrote:
Drinking shit-tons of chocolate milk apparently helps, according to Mark Jansen from Epica anyway. He's always got loads of the crap onstage.


Milk helps definatly, same deal with Milk as with Gummy bears. Ends up lining your throat, thus you don't take as much damage.

Keeping your throat wet is always good, so drink a lot. Don't drink beer unless you know what you're doing, cuz a) you'll get drunk, b) you'll do ''burp''growls and they sound awful. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:00 pm 
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Keeping your throat wet is always good, so drink a lot. Don't drink beer unless you know what you're doing, cuz a) you'll get drunk, b) you'll do ''burp''growls and they sound awful. :D

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Drinking beer helps me! Hahaha. Drinking water fucks my voice up. No good.

As for it hurting, if it hurts you're likely singing from your throat. If you ask a question like above, you likely don't know how to sing. Learn to sing from the diaphragm. If it still hurts then, quit singing like that. It'll be sore for a while the first few times singing that heavy, but it'll all heal itself, just quit if it really hurts. It should only feel like a mild sore throat at worst.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:45 pm 
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Tense up your stomach, then use that to push out the air, and the throat for the sound. Quite often I do too much of the stomach/diaphram whatever shit and it come out a bit burpy-which I'm learning to counteract. The higher pitched screams (which I can't do, but I can do the slightly Deicideesque high pitched ones) is the same but a more open throat and try to change the sound.

If that made no sense...Oh well, I'm shit anyway. Good songs to practice with are Cannibal Corpse-Staring Through the eyes of the dead and Deicide-Lunatic of God's Creation.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:21 am 
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I can growl, or at least use a dark voice, for a few seconds.


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I don't know. I scream along to the stuff in my car all the time. Eventually I was able to progress from screaming a few seconds, to full songs, to entire albums. I don't know if it's any good as I've never made anyone criticize my growl/scream, but I do it. Water soothes your throat. Leaves it nice and tender, ready for some more screaming.

Also, I've found that the higher pitch screams (think the high pitch screams in Kataklysm) are much easier than the lower pitch ones (Bolt Thrower).


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:43 pm 
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ElTipo wrote:
I don't know. I scream along to the stuff in my car all the time. Eventually I was able to progress from screaming a few seconds, to full songs, to entire albums. I don't know if it's any good as I've never made anyone criticize my growl/scream, but I do it. Water soothes your throat. Leaves it nice and tender, ready for some more screaming.

Also, I've found that the higher pitch screams (think the high pitch screams in Kataklysm) are much easier than the lower pitch ones (Bolt Thrower).


Other way round for me, I have NO idea how to get your voice to do high pitched screams. My high pitched one is Chris Barnes/Glen Benton style high, you know-like in Lunatic of God's creation. (chorus)


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:35 pm 
I think that I can do a rather Maniac-esque vomiting scream thing. I can also do Obituary style-growls. What I have trouble in doing is the middle range of these two polar opposites.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:46 pm 
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I've been trying inhaled screams, the high pitched ones sound cool, the low pitched ones might take some work.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:59 am 
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A friend of mine who is currently singing for a death metal band (and does so fairly well) told me he used to practice with stuff like coal chamber and worked his way up. As weird of a plae it is too start it makes sense, because the songs have a moderate amount of variance between times your going full balls to the wall growling and dark vocals


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