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SEPULTURA's latest album, "Dante XXI", has sold just under 2,300 copies during its first week of release in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This figure is a bit more than half the 4,000+ first-week sales tally of the group's last CD, "Roorback", and significantly lower than the 10,000+ first-week number recorded by 2001's "Nation" (the band's 1998 effort, "Against", sold 18,000+ copies in its first week of release).

Talk about a fall from grace. Chaos AD and Roots actually go Gold here in the states (reaching the Billboard Top 40), and now this... You almost have to feel sorry for these guys.

i knew it wouldn't sell well, but i never thought it would suck this bad for them.

Zad: sure soulfly's more popular, but liking one band doesn't mean dislking the other...

what Sepultura has to do is
a) start thrashing, with or without max
b) get fred durst to do a song with them, and then phase back to metal.

i hope their tour with In Flames helps (it's not over, is it??).

Zad: no way it's thrash like Arise... also i like Derrick but only on the stuff from Chaos AD and beyond. and he's (and the rest of the band) kick ass live.

MetalKnight - it shouldn't be too hard to beat whatever came out after Roots.

Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that.

Radagast wrote:

Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that.

I still can't get over how popular "Roots" is in some circles.

emperorblackdoom wrote:

Radagast wrote:

Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that.

I still can't get over how popular "Roots" is in some circles.

Roots Bloody Roots is an excellent song. The rest is a bit meh...

I wish they'd release another arise.

Author:	Seinfeld26 [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:03 pm ]
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This is from Blabbermouth.net: SEPULTURA's latest album, "Dante XXI", has sold just under 2,300 copies during its first week of release in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This figure is a bit more than half the 4,000+ first-week sales tally of the group's last CD, "Roorback", and significantly lower than the 10,000+ first-week number recorded by 2001's "Nation" (the band's 1998 effort, "Against", sold 18,000+ copies in its first week of release). Talk about a fall from grace. Chaos AD and Roots actually go Gold here in the states (reaching the Billboard Top 40), and now this... You almost have to feel sorry for these guys.

Author:	Goat [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:05 pm ]
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Seinfeld26 wrote: This is from Blabbermouth.net: SEPULTURA's latest album, "Dante XXI", has sold just under 2,300 copies during its first week of release in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan. This figure is a bit more than half the 4,000+ first-week sales tally of the group's last CD, "Roorback", and significantly lower than the 10,000+ first-week number recorded by 2001's "Nation" (the band's 1998 effort, "Against", sold 18,000+ copies in its first week of release). Talk about a fall from grace. Chaos AD and Roots actually go Gold here in the states (reaching the Billboard Top 40), and now this... You almost have to feel sorry for these guys. Poor sods. I'm sure this is due (partly, at least) to Soulfly being more popular.

Author:	Azrael [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:20 pm ]
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i knew it wouldn't sell well, but i never thought it would suck this bad for them. Zad: sure soulfly's more popular, but liking one band doesn't mean dislking the other... what Sepultura has to do is a) start thrashing, with or without max b) get fred durst to do a song with them, and then phase back to metal. i hope their tour with In Flames helps (it's not over, is it??).

Author:	Goat [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:24 pm ]
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Azrael wrote: i knew it wouldn't sell well, but i never thought it would suck this bad for them. Zad: sure soulfly's more popular, but liking one band doesn't mean dislking the other... what Sepultura has to do is a) start thrashing, with or without max b) get fred durst to do a song with them, and then phase back to metal. i hope their tour with In Flames helps (it's not over, is it??). The moment Max left, people thought they were dead. I think Derrick Green's a much superior vocalist. And his dreadlocks are actually cool. From reviews I've seen, Dante's a more thrashy album, no?

Author:	MetalKnight [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:35 pm ]
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I don't give a shit about Sepultura, but I just read a (Finnish) review of the new album and it basically said the new album kicks ass, is a somewhat return to their roots (pun intended) and is the best since that Max guy left!!!1

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Author:	Azrael [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:28 pm ]
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Zad: no way it's thrash like Arise... also i like Derrick but only on the stuff from Chaos AD and beyond. and he's (and the rest of the band) kick ass live. MetalKnight - it shouldn't be too hard to beat whatever came out after Roots.

Author:	noodles [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:25 am ]
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meh, i never really liked sepultura

Author:	Seinfeld26 [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:07 am ]
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Azrael wrote: Zad: no way it's thrash like Arise... also i like Derrick but only on the stuff from Chaos AD and beyond. and he's (and the rest of the band) kick ass live. MetalKnight - it shouldn't be too hard to beat whatever came out after Roots. It's basically the same hardcore/punk-influenced music they've been doing since Against. If you like that style of music, you'll like this album. I don't really like this style, though. Derrick's voice has actually improved quite a bit. On Against and Nation his vocals weren't very good. But on the new record, they're actually pretty solid. Though I do prefer Max.

Author:	DeathScream\m/ [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:57 pm ]
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This is due to trends, not their sound. They have sucked since Chaos, and doing a song with Fred Durst probably won't help since he isn't even relevent in this country anymore. Unless Sepultura get those weird emo haircuts, write songs titled "Meaning in Tragedy" or "A gunshot to the head of Trepidation", suck Sharon Osbourne's dick to get on Ozzfest 06', and fill their songs with 2-3 minutes of worthless chugga breakdowns, then they will slowly fade to nothingness. And that's the awful truth today.

Author:	Radagast [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:59 pm ]
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Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that.

Author:	North From Here [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:46 pm ]
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Radagast wrote: Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that. I still can't get over how popular "Roots" is in some circles.

Author:	Goat [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:47 pm ]
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emperorblackdoom wrote: Radagast wrote: Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that. I still can't get over how popular "Roots" is in some circles. Roots Bloody Roots is an excellent song. The rest is a bit meh...

Author:	Radagast [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:55 pm ]
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Zad wrote: emperorblackdoom wrote: Radagast wrote: Sep didn't actually become hugely popular until they started sucking anyway - what you reap, you will sew and all that. I still can't get over how popular "Roots" is in some circles. Roots Bloody Roots is an excellent song. The rest is a bit meh... As I said to Az, if that's one of the good songs on that album....

Author:	Dago [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:12 pm ]
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I wish they'd release another arise.

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Author:	Radagast [ Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:13 pm ]
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Dago wrote: I wish they'd release another arise. True dat.