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| Author: | North From Here [ Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
The breaking point is tricky here, when do we say the Norwegian sound fell into disarray and began getting eclipsed by those initially influenced by them? 1996, 1997, 1998? Abigor always had its unique spin on the genre, same goes for Sigh. Blut Aus Nord was releasing interesting stuff as far back as 1995, Beherit and the Swedish bands were around too, the fledgling American sound, and many more examples abound. A 1997 example which comes to my mind though is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA_IWmvDZko. In many ways this album paved the way for the East European version of the genre, which emphasized the incorporation of Slavic, Finnish, and Romanian folk instrumentation and motifs. Also in 1997 some of the original Norwegian bands were either in radical transition (Ulver, Satyricon), defunct (Burzum), in disarray (Immortal), or all of the above (Mayhem). Meanwhile, with Samoth out of prison, Emperor returned with Anthems to the Welkin in mid 1997, one of the biggest selling, and most popular black metal albums of all time. But I think it serves as the perfect bookend to Norwegian dominance of the genre, whether one likes, loathes, or loves that album (I like it). And Emperor, Darkthrone and Enslaved would also soon be moving further away from their original sounds too. So I'm using top BM albums since Anthems was recorded (if any of you guys want to come up with another break point, please do, just tell us why: the more opinions the better). Also aiming for a list of 15, because otherwise I will go on for too long, but you want to put down 10 or 20, go for it. |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
1.) Deathspell Omega - Si Momentum Requires, circumspice 2.) Emperor - IX Equilibrium 3.) Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia 4.) Drudkh - Blood in Our Wells 5.) Wolves in the Throne Room - Two Hunters 6.) Negura Bunget - Om 7.) Gris - Il Foret Une Fait 8.) Watain - Lawless Darkness (probably should be Sworn to the Dark) 9.) Weakling - Dead As Dreams 10.) Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness 11.) Shining - V: Halmstad 12.) Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain 13.) Cradle of Filth - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant 14.) Leviathan - The Tenth Sub Level of Suicide Included one album on the cusp of 1997. Can't really determine a 15th album, but surely there is something that I am forgetting or maybe it should just Blut Aus Nord, which I just never got into. Or maybe Taake. Obvious USBM slant to my list. |
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| Author: | huskerc7 [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
In no order.... 1. Watain- Sworn To The Dark 2. Mayhem- Chimera 3. Dimmu Borgir- Enthrone Darkness Triumphant 4. Watain- Lawless Darkness 5. Funeral Mist- Salvation 6. Cradle of Filth- Dusk and Her Embrace 7. Cradle of Filth- Midian 8. Dark Funeral- Diabolis Interium 9. Deathspell Omega- Si Momentum Requires, Circumspice 10. Dark Fortress- Profane Genocidal Creations 11. Trelldom- Til Et Annet... 12. Taake- Noregs Vaapen 13. Satanic Warmaster- Carelian Satanist Madness 14. Satanic Warmaster- Strength And Honour 15. Sargeist- Let The Devil In 16. Sargeist- Satanic Black Devotion 17. Nokturnal Mortum- Goat Horns 18. Nokturnal Mortum- The Voice of Steel 19. Marduk- World Funeral 20. Krieg- Blue Miasma 21. Immortal- Sons of Northern Darkness 22. Immortal- At The Heart of Winter 23. Gorgoroth- Twilight of the Idols 24. Dimmu Borgir- In Sorte Diaboli 25. Dark Funeral- Angelus Exuro Pro Eternus 26. Drudkh- Blood in Our Wells there's some sick BM records for you.... |
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| Author: | cry of the banshee [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
I'm going to be a little different in that I will list bands 95 and after, outside of Norway (for the most part at least) In no particular order: Cultes Des Ghoules (entire discography. This is how black metal is supposed to sound) Evilfeast - Funeral Sorcery Inquisition - Into The Infernal Regions Of Ancient Cult Funeral Fog - Under the Black Veil Moonblood - The Winter Falls Over The Land Profanum - Profanum Aeternum Eminence Of Satanic Imperial Art Mortuus - De Contemplanda Morte Gehenna - Seen Through the Veils of Darkness (The Second Spell) Arckanum - Fran Marder Vargsang - Call Of The Nightwolves Tenebrae In Perpetuum - The Black Flame's Age Odal - ...Wilde Kraft Graveland - The Celtic Winter (I cheated, sue me) Thor's Hammer - Three Weeds From The Same Root Xasthur - A Gate Through Bloodstained Mirrors Maniac Butcher - Epitaph Warloghe - Womb Of Pestilence Leviathan - Shadows of No Light [Demo] (was hard to pick just one) Nehemah - (toss up between Light of a Dead Star and Shadows From The Past) Black Funeral - (another toss up between Vampyr - Throne of the Beast and Of Spells of Darkness and Death) Judas Iscariot - To Embrace The Corpses Bleeding Forest Silence - Winter Ritual Doombringer - Abhorrent Dreams of the End Graven - Perished and Forgotten Limbonic Art - Moon In The Scorpio Flagellant - Maledictum |
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| Author: | North From Here [ Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Quote: Graveland - The Celtic Winter (I cheated, sue me) I thought about Graveland after we started making our lists, tough to decide which list to put them in but definitely a worthwhile inclusion. And thank you for remembering Gehenna, they are so often forgotten in these lists, odd considering where they are from. So much for 15, I'll probably stretch this to 20-25 by the time I've figured it out. |
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| Author: | RelentlessOblivion [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Well this is one BM conversation I can't get in on. If '97 is the cutoff point I just don't have enough albums to compile a list. At least not without taking albums from the mid to late 2000s and even then I'm struggling. |
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| Author: | Thrash til' Deth [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Absu - Tara Agalloch - The Mantle Behemoth - The Satanist Blut Aus Nord - Memoria Vetusta II – Dialogue with the Stars Burzum - Belus / Fallen Dark Funeral - Diabolus Interium Dimmu Borgir - Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane (This came out a year or two before '97, but it deserves to be mentioned.) Drudkh - Forgotten Legends / Blood in Our Wells Emperor - IX Equilibrium Enslaved - Below the Lights / Vertebrae Immortal - At the Heart of Winter / Sons of Northern Darkness Inquisition - All of Them!! Limbonic Art - In Abhorrence Dementia Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao Melechesh - Sphynx / Emissaries Rotting Christ - Triarchy of the Lost Lovers / Theogonia Wolves in the Throne Room - Diadem of 12 Stars Watain - Sworn to the Dark Jesus, so damn many I've left out. Need to check out Cultes de Ghoules. |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
RelentlessOblivion wrote: Well this is one BM conversation I can't get in on. If '97 is the cutoff point I just don't have enough albums to compile a list. At least not without taking albums from the mid to late 2000s and even then I'm struggling. Time to start firing up Youtube and get yourself educated. Sworn to the Dark, Si Momentum Requires Circumspice, IX Equilibrium, and In Abhorrence Dementia would be a solid start. |
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| Author: | North From Here [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
traptunderice wrote: RelentlessOblivion wrote: Well this is one BM conversation I can't get in on. If '97 is the cutoff point I just don't have enough albums to compile a list. At least not without taking albums from the mid to late 2000s and even then I'm struggling. Time to start firing up Youtube and get yourself educated. Sworn to the Dark, Si Momentum Requires Circumspice, IX Equilibrium, and In Abhorrence Dementia would be a solid start. It is really easy these days. I can't believe how obscure some of the bands are posted there with full albums. |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
North From Here wrote: traptunderice wrote: RelentlessOblivion wrote: Well this is one BM conversation I can't get in on. If '97 is the cutoff point I just don't have enough albums to compile a list. At least not without taking albums from the mid to late 2000s and even then I'm struggling. Time to start firing up Youtube and get yourself educated. Sworn to the Dark, Si Momentum Requires Circumspice, IX Equilibrium, and In Abhorrence Dementia would be a solid start. It is really easy these days. I can't believe how obscure some of the bands are posted there with full albums. |
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| Author: | RelentlessOblivion [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Hmm let's see what I can come up with for my contribution to this thread. Taake - Natterstid Ser Porten Vid StarGazer - The Scream That Tore The Sky Absu - Exhibit V: Tara Cradle Of Filth - Dusk...And Her Embrace Immortal - At The Heart Of Winter Necromantia - Scarlet Evil Witching Black Bewitched - Diabolical Desecration Little bit of cheating in there I'll admit. |
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| Author: | North From Here [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
traptunderice wrote: You're right despite me not being able to find Lunar Aurora's Andacht last week. Disappointing, though for me that album was always about track 1, Glück, and the rest was sort of overshadowed. |
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| Author: | Nickelback666 [ Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Inquisition-Into the Infernal Regions of the Ancient Cult Blasphemy-Fallen Angel of Doom Rotting Christ-Triarchy of the lost lovers Destroyer 666-Unchain the Wolves Absu-Tara Sigh-Infidel Art Mortuary Drape-All the witches dance Graveland-Immortal Pride Absurd-Facta Loquuntur Dissection-Storm of the lights bane Sticking purely to albums released outside of Norway, that can easily hold a candle to 1st gen Norwegian classics Honorable mentions: Behexen, Horna, Thor's Hammer, Sarcofago, Master's Hammer, |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
North From Here wrote: traptunderice wrote: You're right despite me not being able to find Lunar Aurora's Andacht last week. Disappointing, though for me that album was always about track 1, Glück, and the rest was sort of overshadowed. I remember being impressed by it, but couldn't remember why and wanted to hear it again. It was probably just Gluck. Forgot about Destroyer 666. Unchain the Wolves is big game. |
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| Author: | North From Here [ Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Top Albums since Norway lost control of Black Metal |
Negura Bunget--Om Drudkh--Microcosmos Ruins of Beverast--Rain Upon the Impure Katharsis--World Without End Xasthur--Telepathic with the Disease Graveland--Immortal Pride Limbonic Art--Ad Noctum Horna--Sanjesi Aarelle Burzum--Belus Kawir--Ophiolatriea Leviathan--Tenth Sublevel of Suicide Blut Aus Nord--Saturnian Poetry Moonsorrow--Havitetty Watain--Casus Luciferi Darkestrah--Epos HM: Recent listens like Evilfeast (Funeral Sorcery) or Cultes des Ghoules (Henbane) probably only need time to make this list; meanwhile, Darkspace, Elysian Blaze, Nokturnal Mortum, Gris, Borknagar/Arcturus/Rotting Christ/Gehenna, DsO, Lunar Aurora, Mutiilation, Inquisition, Nehemah and many others only missed it because I kept it to 15. I'm currently trying to listen to every Norwegian 2nd Wave full-length (using my admittedly contrived cut-off point to mid 97). The less famous bands (some of which I'd never heard before) are varying wildly in quality. |
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