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sure !
but then, every marginal ideology didn't kill millions of innocent people... :(

dont give a shit. if i like the music-fair enough. im not gonna go and start a fucking holocaust now, am i? listening to deicide doesnt make me wanna become a satanist, listening to immortal doesnt make me wanna become a weatherman.

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to that some redneck in missouri will say somethign to the effect of " does everybody who sees a lexus comercial buy a lexus, no, but some do" Like The dude protesting manson says in bowlign for columbine.
There no convinceing anybody anythign on this topic.

All groups in history have killed millions, if they just havent got to power yet.

Your french revolutionaries start out with intention of helpign the people and end up killing 40,000 in a year.

Even the most well in tentioned groups are gonna kill.
Given the nazi's ideas weren't totaly well intentioned.

Like i said a long time ago " i don't respect people who don't respect other people" so i hate nazi's too. But unfortunately, some of them make music too good to be ignored.

I enjoy the music and I have absolutely no problem with the lyrics. Some of the lyrics can be kind of cheesy, and those bands I ignore, but quite a few of them that truly are bm I really like the music and the lyrics. As for them all being "skinheads"...not precisely heh, there is a difference between being a skinhead, being NS, racist etc.

Did you read my entire post? :roll: I said certain bands have cheesy lyrics that I don't enjoy, therefore I ignore them...there are some however with very powerful and good lyrics which I do enjoy.

Author:	Stefan [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:53 pm ]
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just curious.... :roll:

Author:	Skartasis [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:56 pm ]
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I try to stay away from it.... but I only own a few NSBM records, and usually I have found out that those where NS later.

Author:	Fingon [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:57 pm ]
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i only give a shit about the music, the rest can suck donkeyballs for all i care

Author:	Anonymous [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:09 pm ]
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the NS message is not in the lyrics, so your poll options are flawed.

Author:	JÃ¼rgen [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:16 pm ]
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Most NSBM people are just dumb skinheads making substandard BM. There are exceptions to this rule, though. Some NSBM bands make good music and (although i don't agree with the message) some even seem to be intelligent people. np : Graveland - Call of the Black Forest

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Author:	otakon [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:37 pm ]
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I stay away from BM with NS lyrics, if dont agree with the ideology, i cant enjoy the music. What's with skinheads doing BM anyway, once i came across this band called Veles and they are all ........ skinheads ! They are attracted to NSBM because of the nazi ideology i guess.

Author:	lizardtail [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:08 pm ]
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I'm not a great fan but then again I don't care what their ideologies are. They're free to use their music as a vehicle for their message if that's what they desire.. If I was going to sit around and be offended at other people's opinions, the first place I'd start would be shitty capitalist nu-metal and thrash bands.. ..the singer from Mansun (long split up) was always talking about Marxism in his songs but that didn't put me off.. ..I'm sure there's a band to represent every marginal ideology out there and I say let them have their viewpoints.

Author:	Stefan [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:02 pm ]
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sure ! but then, every marginal ideology didn't kill millions of innocent people... :(

Author:	Metalhead_Bastard [ Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:44 pm ]
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dont give a shit. if i like the music-fair enough. im not gonna go and start a fucking holocaust now, am i? listening to deicide doesnt make me wanna become a satanist, listening to immortal doesnt make me wanna become a weatherman.

Author:	Dead Machine [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:29 am ]
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T.I.E. wrote: sure ! but then, every marginal ideology didn't kill millions of innocent people... :( Yes, but they certainly would if they had the chance to. Don't kid yourself T.I.E. If a Marxist or Scientologist or Libertarian got the chance, he'd kill you and everyone you care about. As for the issue at hand... it's a complex matter, but it essentially boils down to the fact that, in the words of valefor (mangled slightly) "I find rape, pedophelia, and misogyny to be offensive, yet there are bands reviewed here with themes such as those in their lyrics..." I would add on to that: "and as a result, to not accept idealogies that deal in killing Jews and other such unpleasantries is tantamount to the worst sort of hypocrisy." Which it is. To only let some kinds of hatred towards some groups in and others not at all is ludicrously hypocritical.

Author:	unknownkadath666 [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:05 am ]
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metalhead wrote: dont give a shit. if i like the music-fair enough. im not gonna go and start a fucking holocaust now, am i? listening to deicide doesnt make me wanna become a satanist, listening to immortal doesnt make me wanna become a weatherman. to that some redneck in missouri will say somethign to the effect of " does everybody who sees a lexus comercial buy a lexus, no, but some do" Like The dude protesting manson says in bowlign for columbine. There no convinceing anybody anythign on this topic. All groups in history have killed millions, if they just havent got to power yet. Your french revolutionaries start out with intention of helpign the people and end up killing 40,000 in a year. Even the most well in tentioned groups are gonna kill. Given the nazi's ideas weren't totaly well intentioned.

Author:	Legacy Of The Night [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:37 am ]
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As with most of the music I listen to, I ignore the lyrics, and focus on the music. After all, that's what really counts, and if the music's good, I don't care if the guys are Nazis or not; I know better than to become a Nazi. Fuck the NS bit, all I want is the BM. EDIT: I do agree with Dead Machine and Valefor. To me, all the satanic stuff talking about murdering thousands of innocent people is offensive, and blocking out NSBM for their ideologies is pretty hypocritical.

Author:	Goat [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:16 pm ]
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Not really listened to much NSBM (trying to keep up with the BM takes enough of my time :roll: ). Obviously, I don't appreciate the message, any more than I want to wipe out humanity for my master Satan :roll: (LVCIFVSS!! Destroy the cosmos!!! as I saw the prat from Disciplin say in a Terrorizer interview ( )). Stefan, it's not just Nazis that killed millions, Communists all over the world are responsible for many, many more deaths (Stalin alone killed - what, 20 million?). America causes world suffering with its attacks on foreign countries. At the end of the day, noone is innocent, and criticising one group in particular for their ideals seems to me to be as bad as criticising metal (and 'tallica and Manson in particular :roll: ) for serial killers etc. No, I don't agree with Nazi ideology, nor indeed with any group that hates others, but you can't single out targets and let others get away. All 'haters' are wrong. The only sorts of people I dislike are idiots, and that's more 'mild annoyance' than 'planet-busting hatred'.

Author:	Metalhead_Bastard [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:09 pm ]
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unknownkadath666 wrote: metalhead wrote: dont give a shit. if i like the music-fair enough. im not gonna go and start a fucking holocaust now, am i? listening to deicide doesnt make me wanna become a satanist, listening to immortal doesnt make me wanna become a weatherman. to that some redneck in missouri will say somethign to the effect of " does everybody who sees a lexus comercial buy a lexus, no, but some do" Like The dude protesting manson says in bowlign for columbine. There no convinceing anybody anythign on this topic. All groups in history have killed millions, if they just havent got to power yet. Your french revolutionaries start out with intention of helpign the people and end up killing 40,000 in a year. Even the most well in tentioned groups are gonna kill. Given the nazi's ideas weren't totaly well intentioned. um, i hate to break this to you, but im not french....

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Author:	Astaroth [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:25 pm ]
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Like i said a long time ago " i don't respect people who don't respect other people" so i hate nazi's too. But unfortunately, some of them make music too good to be ignored.

Author:	IronDuchess [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:31 pm ]
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I enjoy the music and I have absolutely no problem with the lyrics. Some of the lyrics can be kind of cheesy, and those bands I ignore, but quite a few of them that truly are bm I really like the music and the lyrics. As for them all being "skinheads"...not precisely heh, there is a difference between being a skinhead, being NS, racist etc.

Author:	IronDuchess [ Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:41 pm ]
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Did you read my entire post? :roll: I said certain bands have cheesy lyrics that I don't enjoy, therefore I ignore them...there are some however with very powerful and good lyrics which I do enjoy.