Metal Reviews

Ok, I have reviewed Ukrainian BM before and I have gotten the good word on passing it. Given that Ukrainian NS is all about national pride and has no roots in Nazism or Hitler, are bands like Dub Buk, Nokturnal Mortum, and others ok to review. Kroda, Hate Forest, and others have been reviewed before. So in this vein, where Slava NS is not about Nazism and such, they should be allowed to be reviewed. You guys are missing out on a lot of quality material by handicapping us from divulging in the scene.

Nokturnal Mortum is awesome.

Nokturnal Mortum is not reviewable, according to Zad, and my educated guess is Dub Buk wouldn't be as well.

I completely understand, and am thankful that Kroda and Hate Forest have been reviewed.

I have been here since, well I think about half a year, and I don't want to ruffle anyones feathers and try to change the culture around here, but some of those Slavic NSBM bands are fucking incredible.

It's easy to see why Nocturnal Mortum would be off limits. Some of their lyrics are despicable.


However, I hope all bands are taken on a case by case basis.

I'd say it would be hypocrisy if communist and anarchist metal can be reviewed and NSBM not.

Equivalent lyrics from the left to what Nokturnal Mortum writes would have me agreeing 100%

Maybe it's just me but I have not seen a communist or anarchist say a certain group of people should be murdered.

Apart from the rich?

I want a concept album from Ukrainian black metal anarchists about the black army. If you can praise the Ukrainian Insurgent Army for fighting the communists and cooperating with the SS, why no praise for the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine, who fought everyone?

The worse a leftist band advocates is revolution which is nothing but war at the worst so on that note we'd have to scratch Bolt Thrower and a shit ton of other bands. Genocide =/= war or revolution.

Hmm, yes, but war often (very often, in fact) is a precursor to genocide. War tends to bring out the worst in man.

Incidentally, the genocide instigated by the Nazis pales in comparison (in sheer magnitude and scope, that is) to the genocides instigated by commumism.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_genocide

Not to mention the various examples throughout history and even happning currently. The point being of course, that genocide is not an exclusive phenomena to NS.


This converstaion is pointless and has a history of futilty, though, so it's probably best to just leave it be.

CotB, I've tried explaining that. But maybe the bright thing of communist genocides is that anyone could be killed instead of just a single ethnic group. Now there's progress

It's not like you can ever understand a word a black metal vocalist is shrieking about anyway, review the stuff. We listen to crap that already has pretty out there lyrics.

Why is it necessary to state that they're Nationalist Socialist BM?

By the way Nazi means National Socialist.

Since when does political motivation mean a style. Call it Black Metal from the Ukraine and be done with it.

He's actually asking about Ukrainian NSBM specifically.

What has the NS got to do with music? Do Nazi Black Metal bands sound different from Centre-right Black Metal Bands or from Communist Black Metal bands or from Vegan Tree Hugger Black Metal bands?

I think it's just showing off one's political ideology to shock people.

I'm a borderline right wing nationalist by the way so I am not offended by this (hell my grandfather was an officer in the Croatian Ustasa back in WWII while the other one was a Communist Party member and career soldier in the Jugoslav People's Army).

I just don't see the point of making music political for shock value.

I could care less what a bands politics are, as long as their music is intense and or dark they could be Martian nationalists. As for Nokturnal Mortum, I don't believe Hitler and his gang of rejects would consider the Eastern bloc worthy of being pure "Aryan".

hmmm. communism =/= U.S.S.R. I've tried explaining that. Call it fucking worker's rights black metal for all I give a fuck. It's a lot better than my race is superior to your race and hence you don't deserve to live metal.

Totally agree!


Slavic Nazis are a bit of a stupid concept. Hitler and co considered Eastern Europe to be Lebensraum or living space. The local Slavic populations would be turned into slaves or annihilated.

What's next: Nazi Jews?

Well, they did learn a few tricks from their erstwhile oppressors...