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Author:  noodles [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:14 am ]
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so far not bad. the vocals are pretty meh and the chorus transition on the first song sucks but there's some really awesome guitar playing. production kicks ass too.

edit: dear god it's way too fucking long and samey
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:15 pm ]
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Hahaha, that was quick.

I never expected anything from Trivuim before, I don't see why I should start now.
Author:  Goat [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:48 pm ]
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I miss Ken. HAW IF IT WAS ANY OTHER BAND U GUISE WOULD BE LOVING IT!11
Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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It's barely enjoyable. The production job is better done than the actual music.
Author:  noodles [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:00 pm ]
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Zad wrote:
I miss Ken. HAW IF IT WAS ANY OTHER BAND U GUISE WOULD BE LOVING IT!11


i'd be loving if it was half as long and had a different singer. srsly nobody wants like 70 minutes of thrash. i'm so glad i finally go to hear the RIPPING YOUR VEINS OUT AS I KILL YOU FROM WITHIN song though
Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:39 pm ]
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noodles wrote:
Zad wrote:
I miss Ken. HAW IF IT WAS ANY OTHER BAND U GUISE WOULD BE LOVING IT!11


i'd be loving if it was half as long and had a different singer. srsly nobody wants like 70 minutes of thrash. i'm so glad i finally go to hear the RIPPING YOUR VEINS OUT AS I KILL YOU FROM WITHIN song though

What song is that lyric from?
Author:  noodles [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:43 pm ]
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the last one, i just remember hearing him sing it during one the 'making of' videos and it was hilarious
Author:  Thomas [ Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:13 pm ]
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Not good.. Downloaded it the other day.. This sucks, even if they try to do something new. Do they try to be the Iron Maiden of metalcore/thrash?
Author:  Kathaarian [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:27 am ]
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This is boring. They can play the shit out of the guitar but can't write a song to save their lives. At least the vocals have improved, from shitty to terrible.

Ascendancy was better, but it was CORE, the music of Satan.
Author:  Speedyjx [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:28 pm ]
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metal_xxx wrote:
Not good.. Downloaded it the other day.. This sucks, even if they try to do something new. Do they try to be the Iron Maiden of metalcore/thrash?


Surely you mean Metallica, no :D?
Author:  Thomas [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:48 pm ]
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could have been, I just thought of the last Maiden album clocking for over 70 minutes... Dunno if Death Magnetic does the same.
Author:  Dago [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:50 pm ]
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This is one of those bands that IMO is not worth even checking out.
Author:  Karmakosmonaut [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:26 am ]
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Kathaarian wrote:
This is boring. They can play the shit out of the guitar but can't write a song to save their lives. At least the vocals have improved, from shitty to terrible.

Oh dear, they've become Dream Theater!
Author:  EdgeOfForever [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:35 am ]
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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
This is boring. They can play the shit out of the guitar but can't write a song to save their lives. At least the vocals have improved, from shitty to terrible.

Oh dear, they've become Dream Theater!


Hah! so true.
Author:  RedHawk [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:11 am ]
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The only good song they wrote was the one with King Diamond on the Roadrunner United cd.
Its a shame they are a VERY talented bunch of musicians. Their last album was a step in the right direction (I hated the vocals on the one before that with the emo like choruses and the screamo vocals). I haven't heard this one yet so I cant judge.
Author:  traptunderice [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:05 am ]
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Where are the people who defended them in the Upcoming Albums thread?

I heard one track and thought it was four more years of the same ol' bad songwriting.
Author:  Skeksis [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:38 pm ]
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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
This is boring. They can play the shit out of the guitar but can't write a song to save their lives. At least the vocals have improved, from shitty to terrible.

Oh dear, they've become Dream Theater!


I lol'd.

I probably won't check this out. I didn't give The Crusade a listen, though I didn't mind a few songs off of Ascendancy.
Author:  grandbazaar [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:26 pm ]
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I've only heard four songs that are legally available and it's decent material. I find the music entertaining, although nothing ground breaking. The singer actually got better so he's a lot more tolerable for those sensitive to that issue, so not everything is as bad as you guys say.

I understand the band doesn't appeal to everyone but saying Ascendancy is metalcore is not 100% correct.
Ascendancy and even Shogun (well so far) have much more in common with Thrash, Melo Death than with Metalcore.
Author:  TheMetalWarrior316 [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:52 pm ]
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BTW. the Iron Maiden cover is almost as good as the original - if not even better.
Author:  Karmakosmonaut [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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TheMetalWarrior316 wrote:
BTW. the Iron Maiden cover is almost as good as the original - if not even better.

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