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The Archaic Course and Quintessence. I would recommend starting with the former.

His vocals on 'Progenies of the Great Apocalypse' are amazing!!!

Yeah. Not quite as epic though.

traptunderice wrote:

Yeah. Not quite as epic though.

Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album.

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Yeah. Not quite as epic though.

Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album.

But all in all, the albums with Garm are still superior...

TheOctavarius wrote:

Karmakosmonaut wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

Yeah. Not quite as epic though.

Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album.

But all in all, the albums with Garm are still superior...

Sure. I'm just saying that The Archaic Course is a criminally underestimated album, and Quintessence is not without its rewards either.

Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say?

Zad wrote:

Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say?

It's a matter of taste I think, but 1) I can't stand Vintersorg's clean vocals and 2) the songwriting just isn't that good anymore. This band has been in a steady decline since its sophomore album, and Vintersorg's noodling was the deathblow.

Empiricism is good u guys. :<

The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song.

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Empiricism is good u guys. :<

The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song.

I totally agree.

I wasn't saying Dimmu is better than Borknagar; it is just that Dimmu builds it up to showcase his vocals making them so epic. As for Vortex's albums in their entirety, I would say Arcturus 'Sideshow Symphonies' is better than the Borknagar albums with him.

traptunderice wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Empiricism is good u guys. :<

The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song.

That is indeed a great album. I'm finding it much better than La Masquerade... (heresy!).

Author:	Mike [ Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:44 am ]
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On which Borknagar CD's did he perform the vocal work on? I'm interested in buying these CD's.

Author:	TheOctavarius [ Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:51 am ]
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The Archaic Course and Quintessence. I would recommend starting with the former.

Author:	Mike [ Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:15 pm ]
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TheOctavarius wrote: The Archaic Course and Quintessence. I would recommend starting with the former. Thanks.

Author:	traptunderice [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:34 pm ]
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His vocals on 'Progenies of the Great Apocalypse' are amazing!!!

Author:	Mike [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:40 pm ]
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traptunderice wrote: His vocals on 'Progenies of the Great Apocalypse' are amazing!!! I really like his voice alot. That's why I was interested in finding the Borknagar CD's that he performed on. Is his vocal work on those CD's similar to his work with Dimmu Borgir?

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Author:	Karmakosmonaut [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:24 am ]
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traptunderice wrote: Yeah. Not quite as epic though. Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album.

Author:	TheOctavarius [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:07 am ]
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: traptunderice wrote: Yeah. Not quite as epic though. Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album. But all in all, the albums with Garm are still superior...

Author:	Karmakosmonaut [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:25 am ]
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TheOctavarius wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: traptunderice wrote: Yeah. Not quite as epic though. Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album. But all in all, the albums with Garm are still superior... Sure. I'm just saying that The Archaic Course is a criminally underestimated album, and Quintessence is not without its rewards either.

Author:	TheOctavarius [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:45 am ]
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: TheOctavarius wrote: Karmakosmonaut wrote: traptunderice wrote: Yeah. Not quite as epic though. Bullshit. The Archaic Course is easily his best vocal work to date. That plus better songs than anything Dimmu Borgir has ever done, and you get a far superior album. But all in all, the albums with Garm are still superior... Sure. I'm just saying that The Archaic Course is a criminally underestimated album, and Quintessence is not without its rewards either. Right, yeah. As long as they don't have Vintersorg, then you can't go wrong with Borknagar.

Author:	Mike [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:50 am ]
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Well, thanks to you both I will certainly be ordering both CD's tonight!!

Author:	Goat [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:52 am ]
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Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say?

Author:	Mike [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:57 am ]
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Zad wrote: Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say? I was going to ask the same thing. I was just sampling a few songs with Vintersorg and I didn't mind him at all. BTW....where the hell have I been that I missed this band. I'm loving what I'm hearing though. Better late than never as they say. I feel like I've been living under a damn rock.

Author:	Legacy Of The Night [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:00 am ]
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Empiricism is good u guys. :< The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song.

Author:	Karmakosmonaut [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:10 am ]
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Zad wrote: Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say? It's a matter of taste I think, but 1) I can't stand Vintersorg's clean vocals and 2) the songwriting just isn't that good anymore. This band has been in a steady decline since its sophomore album, and Vintersorg's noodling was the deathblow.

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Author:	TheOctavarius [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:51 pm ]
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Karmakosmonaut wrote: Zad wrote: Quick Q: why so much shit for Vintersorg generally? I listened to some of his songs the other day, and it's nowhere near as bad as people say? It's a matter of taste I think, but 1) I can't stand Vintersorg's clean vocals and 2) the songwriting just isn't that good anymore. This band has been in a steady decline since its sophomore album, and Vintersorg's noodling was the deathblow. What he said... Empiricism and Epic just sound limp and weak in comparison to their other albums (haven't heard the newest one yet). Sure, they have gems here and there, but overall, the releases with Garm (and/or Vortex) are superior. Besides Vintersorg sounding painfully bad in some areas (using his clean voice), his harsh vocals are just so ordinary...

Author:	traptunderice [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:45 am ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote: Empiricism is good u guys. :< The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song. I totally agree. I wasn't saying Dimmu is better than Borknagar; it is just that Dimmu builds it up to showcase his vocals making them so epic. As for Vortex's albums in their entirety, I would say Arcturus 'Sideshow Symphonies' is better than the Borknagar albums with him.

Author:	Goat [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:30 am ]
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traptunderice wrote: Legacy Of The Night wrote: Empiricism is good u guys. :< The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song. I totally agree. I wasn't saying Dimmu is better than Borknagar; it is just that Dimmu builds it up to showcase his vocals making them so epic. As for Vortex's albums in their entirety, I would say Arcturus 'Sideshow Symphonies' is better than the Borknagar albums with him. That is indeed a great album. I'm finding it much better than La Masquerade... (heresy!).

Author:	Karmakosmonaut [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:58 pm ]
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Zad wrote: traptunderice wrote: Legacy Of The Night wrote: Empiricism is good u guys. :< The Genuine Pulse is a totally badass song. I totally agree. I wasn't saying Dimmu is better than Borknagar; it is just that Dimmu builds it up to showcase his vocals making them so epic. As for Vortex's albums in their entirety, I would say Arcturus 'Sideshow Symphonies' is better than the Borknagar albums with him. That is indeed a great album. I'm finding it much better than La Masquerade... (heresy!). Have you got the Masters of Disguise EP? It's Arcturus' best work. Sideshow Symphonies is a very slow grower and it hasn't quite clicked with me yet. I find the relatively weak production a bit irksome. The songs sound much better on the live DVD, go figure.