Metal Reviews

I never knew Satanic Warmaster was NS, I always thought they had tinged on the area but never hated other races or supported that belief system.
hmmm

There's quite a few Nazi references. He even wrote a song that was entitled My Dreams of Hitler, but the record company made him change it. http://www.metal-archives.com/viewlyrics.php?id=604107

oh well. he believes in a flawed ideology but he still makes kickass music.

Graveland and Drudkh, both worth my time, although it's rather a stretch to say Drudkh is NSBM.

i remember the same question arose on another forum on MA, if you look at Drudkh's official myspace it states that their music has nothing to do with NSBM.

Yeah. Hate Forest think their music is completely non-political too.

It'd be funny if NSBM stood for non-sucky BM because then it wouldn't exist olol

The music produced by Drudkh is about as pro-Slavic as Arkona in my estimation. I suppose one could consider Drudkh as simply a loss leader to draw the unwary into the labyrinth of hate where pro twists into anti.

Not to mention their support of the murderous fucks in the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which goes over most peoples' heads.

never heard of that one, maybe those pure Aryan Ukrainian NSBM bands can record a song about that one

Well, it's right there in the wiki.

Well, Steve-o just proved how people are unwilling to show interest in the music they listen to any more.

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=112304

I like to know more about lyrical topics, so I Wiki'ed that. People are so lazy.

that would be a valid point if the lyrics were English.
I don't speak Ukrainian and when i try to use most online translators I only get a partial translation. Sheesh

Wait. Don't you listen to Krallice, Weakling and WITTR? Hypocrite.

The song in reference? It's. An. Instrumental. It's actually called Ukrainian Insurgent Army, ffs.

There's a lot of shitty stuff indeed but some nice gems also.

Wow. I never read a word of Drudkh's lyrics. I didn't know they were NSBM. So add them to my list.

It's not that they are actually NS it's just that people are touchy.

Well that last bit depends, dunnit?

Absolutely, the political content of some of Dead Kennedys, Napalm Death etc.'s music makes me dig it significantly more than I otherwise would. Likewise, the bands being nazi tossbags has the opposite effect. This is mitigated by the fact that in NSBM I can play the "ignorance is bliss" card, along with Adam, because the lyrics are indecipherable. But yeah, I do lose a lot of respect for the band and what they do.

I don't think there are any explicitly Nazi bands that I actually dig and would go out of my way to listen to, with the possible exception of Arghoslent who strike me a bit more as IRL trolls than anything else.

Basically, there are different levels of musical enjoyment for me. There are those that are part of some holistic project tying music in to thought and action (all the punk bands I like do this). Then, there are those bands that are constructing pure sonic art without any external baggage: it is all about the construction and sound. I see nearly all metal as inhabiting the latter category, and that's why I guess I have a slightly higher tolerance for Nazis in metal, than I would in some other genres.

I love how people always say this in reference to NS and similar ideologies as though there is some ideology out there that is not flawed in some way.



Honestly, when it comes to looking at these sorts of organisations we need to also look at the contemporary context as well. How many people here would have objected if the album were, instead, honouring Stalin or the Soviet Army? The very wiki page you were pointing to does provide the material to hit the proverbial nail on the head, and that material primarily concerns the conflict with Poland. While "atrocities" were committed, these atrocities are committed in war, and when you look at the history of nations like the Ukraine and Poland and the turmoil that has remained constant there, not to mention the constant struggle to remain or to become "nations" in the eyes of the two major powers flanking these nations, is it any wonder that an organization existed to attempt to lay claim to the nation's sovereignty as well as to "rid" the nation of the people that were, at the time, considered the enemy in a history of conflict. Yes, the peasantry has ever borne the brunt of such attempts, but it has ever been so, and likely will ever be so for very simple reasons. To me to simplify it down to "murderous fucks" is missing the other side of the coin.

As for lyrics, from the few English and translated lyrics of Drudkh, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find specifically NS references in Drudkh's lyrics unless you see pride regarding a nation's history, religion and nature as NS. To me its also no wonder that so many Ukrainian and eastern european bands take such a stance when you look at the history of the region.

I agree with Kathaarian about Drudkh (and Hate Forest) as an NS band, and to me the term NS is very often thrown around by people without fully understanding it, nor the bands they claim are NS.