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Did Metallica Make A Comeback With Death Magnetic?
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I absolutely think that they made a comeback. For those of us balls deep in european heavy metal, this wouldn't be what is considered a masterpiece. Ask Yourself "when's the last time a mainstream album was this good?" (that is, those of us that refuse to listen to anything remotely nu-metal)

This is easily the best mainstream album of the last 10 years.

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I absolutely think that they made a comeback. For those of us balls deep in european heavy metal, this wouldn't be what is considered a masterpiece. Ask Yourself "when's the last time a mainstream album was this good?" (that is, those of us that refuse to listen to anything remotely nu-metal)

This is easily the best mainstream album of the last 10 years.


Last albums of Priest, Maiden, Slayer and Megadeth are all better than DM imo, but I'm not sure what mainstream means for you.


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Last albums of Priest, Maiden, Slayer and Megadeth are all better than DM imo, but I'm not sure what mainstream means for you.


I hadn't really made that comparison before, but now that I think about it I actually think Death Magnetic is better than any of those albums. Slightly better than Megadeth and Slayer but way better than Priest and Maiden who imo both failed miserably on their latest work.


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Last albums of Priest, Maiden, Slayer and Megadeth are all better than DM imo, but I'm not sure what mainstream means for you.


I hadn't really made that comparison before, but now that I think about it I actually think Death Magnetic is better than any of those albums. Slightly better than Megadeth and Slayer but way better than Priest and Maiden who imo both failed miserably on their latest work.


I completely and utterly disagree. Last albums:

Maiden > Megadeth > Priest > Slayer > Metallica

The JP might move up if it ever clicks.


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Jesus new Slayer albums are an abomination, how can someone actually enjoy them?


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Jesus new Slayer albums are an abomination, how can someone actually enjoy them?


:huh: Some good stuff on Christ Illusion.


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I agree, except for maybe priest, but I haven't taken the time to get into it yet. A matter of life and death is way better than DM.


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Blaze Bailey's albums with Iron Maiden are way better than Death Magnetic.

Death Magnetic I guess it could be considered a positive comeback. But a good album? Not really.


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It is a good album and, while X Factor was one two, Virtual XI was and still is Maiden's worst album not that it's Blaze's fault by the way...


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I actually like Virtual XI pretty much. Better than the X-factor IMO.


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OldSchool wrote:
Adveser wrote:
I absolutely think that they made a comeback. For those of us balls deep in european heavy metal, this wouldn't be what is considered a masterpiece. Ask Yourself "when's the last time a mainstream album was this good?" (that is, those of us that refuse to listen to anything remotely nu-metal)

This is easily the best mainstream album of the last 10 years.


Last albums of Priest, Maiden, Slayer and Megadeth are all better than DM imo, but I'm not sure what mainstream means for you.


bands that have actually gone platinum and are in the mainstream consiousness. Here in the US you simply aren't going to hear maiden outside of VH-1 classics. Same with priest.

Slayer's only mainstream exposure was on the vice city soundtrack. Same with Megadeth.

Megadeth had some radio play in the mid-90's but no one really cared. People were too busy listening to the stone temple pilots to care about metal.

In other words, this is the best album to come out in the last 10 years that will sell a million copies.

(Personally I think the new slipkbnot album is better, but that is far from what the consensus will believe, even for slipknot fans)

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Adveser wrote:
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Adveser wrote:
I absolutely think that they made a comeback. For those of us balls deep in european heavy metal, this wouldn't be what is considered a masterpiece. Ask Yourself "when's the last time a mainstream album was this good?" (that is, those of us that refuse to listen to anything remotely nu-metal)

This is easily the best mainstream album of the last 10 years.


Last albums of Priest, Maiden, Slayer and Megadeth are all better than DM imo, but I'm not sure what mainstream means for you.


bands that have actually gone platinum and are in the mainstream consiousness. Here in the US you simply aren't going to hear maiden outside of VH-1 classics. Same with priest.

Slayer's only mainstream exposure was on the vice city soundtrack. Same with Megadeth.

Megadeth had some radio play in the mid-90's but no one really cared. People were too busy listening to the stone temple pilots to care about metal.

In other words, this is the best album to come out in the last 10 years that will sell a million copies.

(Personally I think the new slipkbnot album is better, but that is far from what the consensus will believe, even for slipknot fans)


Well, if we go by this definition, yes, it's true: Death Magnetic is the best mainstream metal album of the decade. It's also the only one.


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One dude on one croatian metal forum about DM posted(well I shall try to translate it as accurate as possible): " Death Magentic album is shit, even worse that St. Anger...How? well, while they were making St. Anger they were making something new, yes it sucked. But they tried to do something new and different but failed. While Death Magnetic is just desperate trying to do something like in the old days. The songs are too long and pointless. Lyrics are lame and adjusted do average moron could understand 'em. The music is just idiotic and senseless bunch of good parts. example: Toothpaste is good, Tuna fish is good, chili is good, cream is good. But all that mixed DM style and you'll have hot-sweet tuna that smell like menthol."


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showmaster wrote:
One dude on one croatian metal forum about DM posted(well I shall try to translate it as accurate as possible): " Death Magentic album is shit, even worse that St. Anger...How? well, while they were making St. Anger they were making something new, yes it sucked. But they tried to do something new and different but failed. While Death Magnetic is just desperate trying to do something like in the old days. The songs are too long and pointless. Lyrics are lame and adjusted do average moron could understand 'em. The music is just idiotic and senseless bunch of good parts. example: Toothpaste is good, Tuna fish is good, chili is good, cream is good. But all that mixed DM style and you'll have hot-sweet tuna that smell like menthol."


Some people are just embittered, arrogant stupid pieces of crap who are just jealous bitches. And for them it doesn't matter what metallica are releasing, because they would bash EVERYTHING - whatever it is. They would bash a new Load, a new Master of Puppets or a new Black Album. Even if Metallica would release something like Reign in Blood, it would be for them a shitty Slayer copy.

They just can't forgive Metallica the TBA, Loads and Reloads. That's the point. If Metallica had released DM after and Justice for all, everybody would be pleased and they would celebrate that they went back to the Kill em All days, from the vibes.


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If the band had disappeared after 1993 only to reappear now with this release it would probably be openly received and accepted without the disdain that accompanies it given it’s history. Unfortunately we all know the details: Napster, Jason Newstead’s departure, rehab, psychiatry, etc. But to continue the comparison, Slayer fans want to hear Slayer when the band sounds like Slayer and Metallica fans love hearing the band when it sounds like Metallica. Death Magnetic sounds like Metallica; but it also sounds like it was written and recorded by a band of aging celebrities in its forties who are trying to relive their Scarface. But it also sounds better than most anyone expected it would and certainly far better than it should.


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Metallica is an overrated band. And you all know that. It is a fact.


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Dago wrote:
Metallica is an overrated band. And you all know that. It is a fact.
Not in this world. From my POV Death Magnetic is one of the most underrated metal albums, especially from metal websites, because it seems that nobody can believe that Metallica could make a comeback like this and nobody has the heart to give the good rating what it deserves, because of the first 80s mega albums and of the bad 90s Albums. They don't trust in what they are listening and analyse evereything 10 times more than they would on other bands albums and put every little critic point on the assay balance. Prejudices are here the ruling opinion and not the quality album itself.


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showmaster wrote:
One dude on one croatian metal forum about DM posted(well I shall try to translate it as accurate as possible): " Death Magentic album is shit, even worse that St. Anger...How? well, while they were making St. Anger they were making something new, yes it sucked. But they tried to do something new and different but failed. While Death Magnetic is just desperate trying to do something like in the old days. The songs are too long and pointless. Lyrics are lame and adjusted do average moron could understand 'em. The music is just idiotic and senseless bunch of good parts. example: Toothpaste is good, Tuna fish is good, chili is good, cream is good. But all that mixed DM style and you'll have hot-sweet tuna that smell like menthol."


This is an idiotic comment. Nonetheless, it doesn't change the fact that many people find Death Magnetic to be an average no matter how much some fans want to think that everyone is just prejudiced and that DM sounds exactly like the old stuff (which we're not, and it doesn't). And no offense, TheMetalWarrior, but calling DM one of the most underrated metal albums of all time after its been out for two weeks is pretty hilarious.


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to me, its more overrated than underrated.


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How does DM get 85 points, and the Haunted's The Dead Eye (which I just bought) gets bashed for having metalcore parts (which it doesn't)?? And on the topic of 2008 thrash cds, the Haunted's new cd Versus totally owns DM.

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Voting no, even though I haven't heard any of the new stuff.


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