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CARNAL MALEFACTOR

Also not black or death but the main riff in The Devil Rides Out is fucking badass


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Which riff are we talking about? There's that huge major key riff in that song that sounds anything but evil because it makes me want to climb a mountain and look down from the top at a city or something.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
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CARNAL MALEFACTOR


Which riff are we talking about? There's that huge major key riff in that song that sounds anything but evil because it makes me want to climb a mountain and look down from the top at a city or something.


Yeah, that one is massive!


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CARNAL MALEFACTOR


Which riff are we talking about? There's that huge major key riff in that song that sounds anything but evil because it makes me want to climb a mountain and look down from the top at a city or something.


Well the first section with the spoken-style vocals sounds really evil, then there's tremolo picked riff that comes in. That's the one I meant, I suppose it's not particularly evil, but fucking cool nonetheless.


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Electric Wizard - Mother Of Serpents
Electric Wizard - Saturn's Children
Electric Wizard - Black Magic Rituals & Perversions
are all pretty witchy.


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Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath


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Mutiilation- New False Prophet (the main fast one)


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Blut Aus Nord - Procession of the Dead Clowns, Odinist, Our Blessed Frozen Cells


They give me the chills every fucking time.


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^^ Blut Aus Nord has had their fair share. I'll go with Axis as being the most evil.


Oh, Leviathan's Tenth Sublevel of Suicide just popped into my head.


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Rhys wrote:
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Rhys wrote:
CARNAL MALEFACTOR


Which riff are we talking about? There's that huge major key riff in that song that sounds anything but evil because it makes me want to climb a mountain and look down from the top at a city or something.


Well the first section with the spoken-style vocals sounds really evil, then there's tremolo picked riff that comes in. That's the one I meant, I suppose it's not particularly evil, but fucking cool nonetheless.


The fast one late in the song right after the choral part? That is very nasty.


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I don't think "evil" works for me as a description for a piece of music. The lyrics can be evil. The tone can be evil. Maybe mystery sounds evil to some or they have been told that sound is the sound of evil. Laid back and slow sounds evil to a lot of people.

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Adveser wrote:
I don't think "evil" works for me as a description for a piece of music. The lyrics can be evil. The tone can be evil. Maybe mystery sounds evil to some or they have been told that sound is the sound of evil. Laid back and slow sounds evil to a lot of people.


What about that chord or note, the devils note, that the catholic church banned? Their is definitely music that sounds evil man!


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90% of Runemagick's catalog, Niklas Rudolfsson is the master of creating evil sounding songs and riffs.


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huskerc7 wrote:
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I don't think "evil" works for me as a description for a piece of music. The lyrics can be evil. The tone can be evil. Maybe mystery sounds evil to some or they have been told that sound is the sound of evil. Laid back and slow sounds evil to a lot of people.


What about that chord or note, the devils note, that the catholic church banned? Their is definitely music that sounds evil man!


That's the blues scale which I think sucks. I outright refuse to play in that scale at all. It requires you to either play off-key or avoid notes that are part of the scale. I'm not a fan.

The churches probably banned it because it turns a song into an off-key mess.

A better way to use it would be to find a decent scale that uses it.

The Tri-Tone is a half an octave, the most dissonant note possible in relation to the root note.

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Dissonance sounds evil imo


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90% of Runemagick's catalog, Niklas Rudolfsson is the master of creating evil sounding songs and riffs.


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Dissonance sounds evil imo


Exactly. Playing out of key/borrowing notes works really well if you want an "evil" riff.


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Carpathian Forest's Bloodlust and Perversion demo pretty much oozes with evil riffage.

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Don't know if I'd call it "evil" or not, but Sargeist > Tyranny Returns > Sinister Glow Of Funeral Torches always hits the spot.


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Dissonance sounds evil imo


Exactly. Playing out of key/borrowing notes works really well if you want an "evil" riff.


I have a demo by some band named Borgo, and the interludes between tracks are these very funeral home sounding organ pieces. Manages to create a pretty dark atmosphere.


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Dissonance sounds evil imo


Exactly. Playing out of key/borrowing notes works really well if you want an "evil" riff.


You guys should know by now. I'm the biggest fan of out of place keys. I love harmonic minor in particular as of late. It sounds evil in a way I guess. I like building up an expectation that certain notes will be heard (this happens subconsciously for those of you that don't particularly care about what notes or any theory at all) and then instead of giving you that note making it sharp or flat instead.

A good example is the key of F# Minor, as heard on such songs as Rush's "The Big Money" and A-Ha/Vision Divine's "Take on Me" it is the exact same scale as the very familiar E major, except the D# becomes a D, which gives the E a role we are not used to seeing it in because it is flatter than the tonal centre, but it retains its whole note apart from D and F#, so it gives the strong suggestion of actually playing E Minor, but, the songs tonal center is a bit sharper than we are used to hearing. It's really fascinating how our ears have been molded to expect certain sounds and how you can screw with people's perceptions by stepping outside that box.

To me that sounds most melodic or "evil" as the discussion is detailing. Hanging out in Emin for 20 straight years is a bore and I can't understand why so many go that way. Are they tone deaf and never really understood the one scale they always use to begin with?

That is what the blues scale is all about, throwing your ear in the wrong direction by changing key 3 times in a note progression. I just think Blues goes about it wrong. It is essentially the really lazy way of changing keys without having to learn dozens of scales.

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