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NSBM : What's your opinion ?
I love it ! the message too ! 18%  18%  [ 9 ]
It's okay if you don't put too much attention into the lyrics 22%  22%  [ 11 ]
Sometimes it's good but the message sucks 29%  29%  [ 14 ]
Errrrrr... no nazi shit for me, thx ! but then, let 'em speak... 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
Kill those nazis now ! 16%  16%  [ 8 ]
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Oh and being a Pagan I despise people constantly crying about the Holocasust. More of us were killed in the Burning Times than Jews were in the damn Holocaust, so fuck off.


Hey! Dumbass! Guess what: Approximentally ZERO of your faux-Pagan companions were killed in the Burning Times. The people killed in the Burning Times were either:

A. Rich Christians. Jealousy over property was a huge factor in the selecting of 'witches.'
B. Old women who used herbs as family remedies for things like cuts.
C. Children that were noisy.

Maybe one in every 600 people burned at the stake was a true pagan.

You dumbass.

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I'm not a Nazi, but I don't sympathize with the fucking Jews just because I'm told to. I've got quite a bit of Native American blood in me and, yet again, noone besides Anthrax cries for them.


I agree with you: The plight of the Indians was terrible and more attention should have been paid to it. That, however, doesn't make the Holocaust any less of a terrible occurence. For instance, the Rwandan genocide was terrible, but would you call it any less worthy of attention merely because only one million or so people died in it as opposed to the total of twelve million or so that died in the Holocaust? This figure includes Jews and non-Jews as well, by the way.

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and yet again, the AmerIndians were nearly wiped out, the Jews weren't, so quit weeping for the Jews. They practically control the entertainment business in America, make shitloads of money, and yet "They're SO mis-treated, SO opressed". Give me a fucking break! Death to Judeo-Christianity! The Pagans will have their revenge! :evil:


One-third of all the Jews in the world had been murdered. That's pretty damned close to wiping out.

And these stereotypes you trumpet? They're from the FUCKING MIDDLE AGES! "The Jews control this, the Jews control that, Jews are good with money..." Guess what, Ein-fucking-stein Jr, the Jews don't CONTROL anything.

No, the Pagans will have NO revenge, especially if these Pagans you speak of are Wiccans. Wiccans can go eat a cock. The Pagans will continue to worship their gods, the Christians their gods, and every one should just get the fuck along.

Go fuck yourself, you worthless shit.


How mature. People will never get along. Go read a history book. Everybody get along, then you tell me to go fuck myself because I'm a worthless shit. Sounds pretty hypocrtical to me.And everybody was a Pagan back then, the only people who accepted Christianity were the leaders of the Kingdoms and that was to keep the Xtian pukes from overrunning their kingdoms, and burniong them down. Kill them all, God will know his own. I never said the Holocaust wasn't horrible, the point of my post was to point out that shit like that happens all of the time, why do we constantly dwell on that one fucking thing?

"Hate if you want to hate, love if you want to love,but put your fucking heart into it!No posuers,no wimps,no half-assers!"-King Fowley


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..every one should just get the fuck along.

Go fuck yourself, you worthless shit.


hoho

Leave the kid alone man, it's just opinions, no-one's acting on their beliefs in this thread.


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sry, error! look below :wink:


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skullthrone of satan wrote:
How mature. People will never get along. Go read a history book. Everybody get along, then you tell me to go fuck myself because I'm a worthless shit. Sounds pretty hypocrtical to me.And everybody was a Pagan back then, the only people who accepted Christianity were the leaders of the Kingdoms and that was to keep the Xtian pukes from overrunning their kingdoms, and burniong them down. Kill them all, God will know his own. I never said the Holocaust wasn't horrible, the point of my post was to point out that shit like that happens all of the time, why do we constantly dwell on that one fucking thing?

"Hate if you want to hate, love if you want to love,but put your fucking heart into it!No posuers,no wimps,no half-assers!"-King Fowley


What Burning Times are you talking about?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_burn.htm. This one, right? That's the one I was talking about.

And when I say: everyone SHOULD (note the Should) get along, I don't mean racist assholes such as yourself.


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I preach sympathy for the AmerIndians, but I'm a racist? You don't make any sense. I'm 16th Indian so being racist is out of the question. It's called Nihilism.


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skullthrone of satan wrote:
I preach sympathy for the AmerIndians, but I'm a racist? You don't make any sense. I'm 16th Indian so being racist is out of the question. It's called Nihilism.


You deny all existence?

edit: Oh, hrm, maybe you're a russian revolutionary?

2nd edit: If not, the only option you have left other than insanity is a willingness to not distinguish between moral and immoral, right and wrong.. and yet that doesn't stop everyone else from doing so.

nihilism = derf derf


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Just humasnity's existence. Oh, and I get along with Ben the reviewer, I used to go visit him at 7-11 when he worked there, so end of the racist discussion.


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Fidel, a great leader and an example of how communism should be run? You have no idea what you're talking about. No dictator is a great leader. Trust me, you never want to live in a dictatorship, or in true communism. If you were to go to Cuba and live there as a cuban, not as a tourist, you would be incredibly shocked and horrified in less than a week. You wouldn't last a week, actually. There is a guy from Cuba on these forums and if he sees this thread he will flame you to death, which you would probably deserve, because you're really talking senselessly about things you don't have a clue about.


Saying that no dictator can be a great leader sounds like something Bush would say. It's simply not true, and you cannot back that statement.

I don't think you're an expert on Cuba. Cuba does have its problems. Poverty is one of them (the fact that America refuses to do any trade with them is partly responsible for that). But it's the fact that Cuba is a poor country that socialism is needed.

People in South America fought against capitalism, and fought for socialism. Che Guevara was a hero to them. They wanted it in the same way that Germans wanted democracy over communism (Germany was a rich country, which makes sense).

But don't directly relate living conditions to the country's leader. America is a great country to live in, but that sure as fuck doesn't make Bush a good leader.


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skullthrone of satan wrote:
I preach sympathy for the AmerIndians, but I'm a racist? You don't make any sense. I'm 16th Indian so being racist is out of the question. It's called Nihilism.


Y'know, you don't have to be a member of the majority to be racist, you idiot. Black people that call white people 'honkies' or 'crackers' are just as racist as white people that call black people 'jigs' or 'nightfighters.'

How is saying shit like:
skullthrone of satan wrote:
They practically control the entertainment business in America, make shitloads of money, and yet "They're SO mis-treated, SO opressed".


NOT racist? Explain this to me.

NOTE: I as well have sympathy for the American Indians, and yet I'm not racist. You, however, are. Do you see the difference? I'm not insulting Jews while saying the American Indians were treated worse, but you are. That's what makes you racist.


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Trust me, you never want to live in a dictatorship, or in true communism. If you were to go to Cuba and live there as a cuban, not as a tourist, you would be incredibly shocked and horrified in less than a week. You wouldn't last a week, actually.


I'm willing to bet you wouldn't want to live as a poor person in America either, having to declare bankruptcy because you can't pay your medical bills..


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I think Skullthrone of Satan was pointing out a truth that the Holocaust has gotten far more attention than any other massacre in history. I don't think he was saying it was right or even ok in any regard, just that the Native America plight could get a bit more attention.

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And Spielburg goes overboard with the, "our poor forsaken race" crap. He made Schlinder's list which was a fine statement on the Holocaust. But his upcoming big project is on the story of the 1972 Olympics in Munich when the Jewish team was attacked, and he is producing another film on the Ukranian Holocaust and he very nearly directed the Pianist. Anything bad that happened to the Jewish people he seemingly has to make a movie about and make another 20 million dollars on.


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I hate to break it to you guys but Jewish people are the most racist people known to man. So they were killed by their own poison. I don't care about the holocaust. Sure it's terrible , boo-hoo get over it, it's fucking war , it happens , it happened before and it will happen later. They're killing Palestinians every day. They're the sole reason that the middle east is in unrest. They control the business world and push their agenda.

So I don't feel sympathy for them.


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I hate to break it to you guys but Jewish people are the most racist people known to man. So they were killed by their own poison. I don't care about the holocaust. Sure it's terrible , boo-hoo get over it, it's fucking war , it happens , it happened before and it will happen later. They're killing Palestinians every day. They're the sole reason that the middle east is in unrest. They control the business world and push their agenda.

So I don't feel sympathy for them.


Anyone who trumpets the wonders of warfare needs to go enlist now. Go ahead. Go and walk around in a warzone and love every second of it. I dare you.

As for you, Kaatharian the racist...

Guess what! Your claims are unfound. You know nothing. You are a man with eyes and ears closed to the world, who lives in his vaucous, poisoned mind. Your chances for happiness are limited to the cold and unfeeling hands of death or the hollow joy and endless hatred of junky life.

Good luck finding someone to live with you, for the only way that'll happen is if you find an equally closed-minded idiot fuck to fuck convulsively and eventually marry, and settle down for a life of utter worthlessness in every regard.

Kaatharian, you stand poised at the very edge of lifelong inanity and humanistic disregard for your fellow beings. I encourage you to take that step over the edge and plummet into that abyss of nothing.

One small step for Kaatharian, one giant leap for racist fuckheads.


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I think Skullthrone of Satan was pointing out a truth that the Holocaust has gotten far more attention than any other massacre in history. I don't think he was saying it was right or even ok in any regard, just that the Native America plight could get a bit more attention.

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And Spielburg goes overboard with the, "our poor forsaken race" crap. He made Schlinder's list which was a fine statement on the Holocaust. But his upcoming big project is on the story of the 1972 Olympics in Munich when the Jewish team was attacked, and he is producing another film on the Ukranian Holocaust and he very nearly directed the Pianist. Anything bad that happened to the Jewish people he seemingly has to make a movie about and make another 20 million dollars on.


What about the systematic extermination of the native americans?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm

among others of course... Stalin, Pol Pot, etc..
There is no shortage of depravity in human history.
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Right. Massacres have happened on a grand scale several times in recent centuries, but the Holocaust gets the lion's share of attention.


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Trust me, you never want to live in a dictatorship, or in true communism. If you were to go to Cuba and live there as a cuban, not as a tourist, you would be incredibly shocked and horrified in less than a week. You wouldn't last a week, actually.


I'm willing to bet you wouldn't want to live as a poor person in America either, having to declare bankruptcy because you can't pay your medical bills..


But I wasn't reffering to poverty. Poverty is tough everywhere. But a poor guy in US can say a joke about Bush, or can express his disatisfaction with Bush, and can pretty much say whatever he wants, about Bush or any other subject. A cuban that says something against Castro is a dead cuban. It's the lack of human rights that I was talking about.


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
I think Skullthrone of Satan was pointing out a truth that the Holocaust has gotten far more attention than any other massacre in history. I don't think he was saying it was right or even ok in any regard, just that the Native America plight could get a bit more attention.


All of the genocides that have happened in recent history are deserving of just as much attention as the Holocaust ever got.

I'm fine with expressal of this thought, but Skullthrone added on a series of racial stereotypes and remarks that I refused to accept anyone saying.


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