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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:11 am 
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Salivating when food is brought to you is not even close to equivalent to people feeling threatened on an internet message board.


Although, I must say I'm conditioned to think whatever Adveser says is a pretentious load of BS.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
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I think ear training is essential, but nothing else is for the non musician. If you can't perceive the mood and tonality of a song you are missing half the picture.

I mean people really think Eb is the same as E but a little heavier. Listening to an ear training course will make it very apparent that those are not even the same songs anymore once shifted down a half step. The pitches are a half step off, but the unique tones of the individual notes are totally different. Too many people hear in black and white and everyone has the ability to learn the way the notes sound. This is because the notes are all off-key except for A harmonically. That is why the chords have that crunch and ring to them we all love so much.

Uninformed shit like that is what gets on my nerves, especially when people want to argue the point despite most musicians knowing the difference. Just because Metallica can't hear it doesn't mean it isn't there. Hell, the might be aware of it and did it anyway cause they are sick of the songs and it feels like a different song.


Dude, NOBODY CARES!
Erudition and self-stroking pedantry is what gets on my nerves.
If it sounds good who the fuck gives a damn about all that stuff you just wrote?
Like I said, you just want to wax pedantic in another vain attempt at showing off what bit of musical knowledge you have picked up somehow. Bravo, sir. You re clearly a musical wizard, thank you for bestowing the light of knowledge 'pon us, the great unwashed that listen to music mainly for pleasure.
Maybe you can read a book about how most people don't generally suck the life out of music by analyzing and dissecting it into sterile, meaningless pieces.
It's fucking metal, who cares if it is slightly short of perfection? And not everyone cares about the difference between Eb or E.


What the fuck is wrong with you, can you not read? You keep putting words in my mouth like it is a fact. You still think my posts are about impressing people when I really could care less how someone perceives the content. That is like saying everyone that does anything does so to get a reaction out of someone. Rush don't write technical music to please the fans, they write that way because that is what they enjoy. Same thing with my posts and ideas. It's my opinion, not a fucking dick measuring contest. Get over it. It isn't about you.

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The white supremacist ones.


yeah lol

I guess I'm not really repulsed by someone like Varg but I'm surprised people can take his music seriously.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:49 am 
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noodles wrote:
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The white supremacist ones.


yeah lol

I guess I'm not really repulsed by someone like Varg but I'm surprised people can take his music seriously.


Going out queer hunting for the glory of BM is the most repulsive fucking thing I've ever heard of in music period. I watched the Doc about Mayhem and they made it clear that that was the case, so I don't know you can defend that. Separating the people from their music shows that someone respect neither IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:18 am 
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Adveser wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
Adveser wrote:
I think ear training is essential, but nothing else is for the non musician. If you can't perceive the mood and tonality of a song you are missing half the picture.

I mean people really think Eb is the same as E but a little heavier. Listening to an ear training course will make it very apparent that those are not even the same songs anymore once shifted down a half step. The pitches are a half step off, but the unique tones of the individual notes are totally different. Too many people hear in black and white and everyone has the ability to learn the way the notes sound. This is because the notes are all off-key except for A harmonically. That is why the chords have that crunch and ring to them we all love so much.

Uninformed shit like that is what gets on my nerves, especially when people want to argue the point despite most musicians knowing the difference. Just because Metallica can't hear it doesn't mean it isn't there. Hell, the might be aware of it and did it anyway cause they are sick of the songs and it feels like a different song.


Dude, NOBODY CARES!
Erudition and self-stroking pedantry is what gets on my nerves.
If it sounds good who the fuck gives a damn about all that stuff you just wrote?
Like I said, you just want to wax pedantic in another vain attempt at showing off what bit of musical knowledge you have picked up somehow. Bravo, sir. You re clearly a musical wizard, thank you for bestowing the light of knowledge 'pon us, the great unwashed that listen to music mainly for pleasure.
Maybe you can read a book about how most people don't generally suck the life out of music by analyzing and dissecting it into sterile, meaningless pieces.
It's fucking metal, who cares if it is slightly short of perfection? And not everyone cares about the difference between Eb or E.


What the fuck is wrong with you, can you not read? You keep putting words in my mouth like it is a fact. You still think my posts are about impressing people when I really could care less how someone perceives the content. That is like saying everyone that does anything does so to get a reaction out of someone. Rush don't write technical music to please the fans, they write that way because that is what they enjoy. Same thing with my posts and ideas. It's my opinion, not a fucking dick measuring contest. Get over it. It isn't about you.


haha, I can read just fine. Who said it is about me?
Talk about not being able to read, I never once implied it was about anything other than you spouting off about your knowledge of musical theory. The fact that you mention it in every single thread, regardless of whether or not is has anything to do with the topic at hand kinda leads one to believe that you are putting on high-toned airs.


I'd like to see just one post where you aren't trying to impress YOURSELF with pedantic bullshit about the difference between a flat and a sharp note, "Recording Studio 101", or "How Record Producers Decide What We Listen To" or whatever the hell you are rambling about currently, than.
Better?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:20 am 
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Adveser wrote:
noodles wrote:
Adveser wrote:
The white supremacist ones.


yeah lol

I guess I'm not really repulsed by someone like Varg but I'm surprised people can take his music seriously.


Going out queer hunting for the glory of BM is the most repulsive fucking thing I've ever heard of in music period. I watched the Doc about Mayhem and they made it clear that that was the case, so I don't know you can defend that. Separating the people from their music shows that someone respect neither IMO.


Actually, that was Faust from Emperor... Jeebus, you can't even get the bands straight.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
Adveser wrote:
noodles wrote:
Adveser wrote:
The white supremacist ones.


yeah lol

I guess I'm not really repulsed by someone like Varg but I'm surprised people can take his music seriously.


Going out queer hunting for the glory of BM is the most repulsive fucking thing I've ever heard of in music period. I watched the Doc about Mayhem and they made it clear that that was the case, so I don't know you can defend that. Separating the people from their music shows that someone respect neither IMO.


Actually, that was Faust from Emperor... Jeebus, you can't even get the bands straight.


Fuck, your right. My bad.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:33 am 
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I'd like to see just one post where you aren't trying to impress YOURSELF with pedantic bullshit about the difference between a flat and a sharp note, "Recording Studio 101", or "How Record Producers Decide What We Listen To" or whatever the hell you are rambling about currently, than.
Better?


Fair enough, even though 4/5 posts have nothing to do with any of that crap. It is generally on topic or close to the topic.

I'm sorry, but me bringing up Rubins production when asked about Slayer and you not caring about it is hardly off-topic. It just isn't what you want to hear.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:37 am 
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Adveser wrote:
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I'd like to see just one post where you aren't trying to impress YOURSELF with pedantic bullshit about the difference between a flat and a sharp note, "Recording Studio 101", or "How Record Producers Decide What We Listen To" or whatever the hell you are rambling about currently, than.
Better?


Fair enough, even though 4/5 posts have nothing to do with any of that crap. It is generally on topic or close to the topic.

I'm sorry, but me bringing up Rubins production when asked about Slayer and you not caring about it is hardly off-topic. It just isn't what you want to hear.


If you want to talk about the merits of production and musical theory, go for it. It has it's place, after all.
The thing is, it doesn't apply to this topic.
Well at least your posts are not empty meaningless babble ala noodles, I'll give you that much.


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Adveser wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
Adveser wrote:
noodles wrote:
Adveser wrote:
The white supremacist ones.


yeah lol

I guess I'm not really repulsed by someone like Varg but I'm surprised people can take his music seriously.


Going out queer hunting for the glory of BM is the most repulsive fucking thing I've ever heard of in music period. I watched the Doc about Mayhem and they made it clear that that was the case, so I don't know you can defend that. Separating the people from their music shows that someone respect neither IMO.


Actually, that was Faust from Emperor... Jeebus, you can't even get the bands straight.


Fuck, your right. My bad.


You should have responded with something along the lines of "Who's being pedantic now"?
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cry of the banshee wrote:
Well at least your posts are not empty meaningless babble ala noodles, I'll give you that much.


this is the first thing you've said that's hurt my feelings :(


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