Metal Reviews

The only one posting stupid shit in this thread is you. What a surprise.
You wouldn't know good black metal, and what makes it so, from your ass, so get lost.
I repeat; why do you insist on laming up every thread you post in?

because maybe someday somewhere a black metal musician will read my post and think "oh hey, maybe I should get a drummer who knows what they're doing and record my music properly" and the first good black metal album will be born

i see it as a service to humanity

I love the freedom this place allows with posting, but there are drawbacks. One being stunted idiots with far too much idle time such as yourself are given free reign to reek the place up with troll posting reaction baiting bullshit. Not a plus.
Congratulations, you have once again managed to hijack another thread with your ingorant nonsense, thereby bringing the forum down one more notch, you should be right proud.
Bravo.

Normally I'd defend you noodles...but you are just being a fucking troll.

I'd've posted about the thread's original topic but I don't tolerate music with a sub par performance from one of the musicians, so I can't think of any thrash metal or otherwise bands with lazy drummers off the top of my head. The thread can go back to smilies and Neil Peart as a black metal drummer now.

You could've just ignored each other, you know. It's hard, but it has been done before. Just saying.

Wow, so we have your permission to continue now that you've had your say? Eeeeexcellent.

Yeah, you'd rather listen to this queer shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcXFMJNSids


Get lost, you fucking poseur; you don't even listen to metal, what the fuck are you even doing here, other than disrupting and posting faggoty bullshit about hugs and moonlight and your new purse?

You obviously know fuck all about black metal.
Idiot, you don't see everyone else posting in threads about bands and genres we are niether knowledgeable about or care for, just to stir shit up, do you? And given your shit taste in music, it would be a full time job.

Now, then.
To get back to the topic:
It is pretty hard to think of more than a couple of drummers in thrash that aren't at least competent.

Even Sandamnn from Destruction is decent, just a little sloppy.

What about best thrash drummers?

well, Panopticon utilizes some aspects of BM, and the drumming is quite good, but I wouldn't really call it primitive BM, or even strictly BM.
The drums on albums such as Transylvanian Hunger, et al, are there to provide a pulse, nothing really more.
Obviously the focus is on the guitars. In fact, too-flashy drum work tends to be a distraction.


All of the best BM have one thing in common, and the drums play a minor role in it. Exceptions being pre Anthems Emperor and Mayhem.

This thread is serious lol.

I'd have to respectfully disagree on a few fronts, though I'm sure you're using the archetypal BM definition. Bands such as Marduk, Gorgoroth, earlier Dissection, as well as Emperor as you have listed all have abrasive drum performances. I think in some ways it broadened the horizons as opposed to merely the same patterns performed by the likes of Fenriz or Varg. Whether or not it is "true" depends on your perspective, as in the case of Marduk and Dissection there is a lot of death metal influence. Gorgoroth is a tricky one in my opinion.

Dissection and Marduk, as you correctly stated, have a pretty decent amount of death metal influence, so the drums are going to play a more prominent role in the composition. Even Emperor (a qualification is in order, since Faust is a damn good skinsman, and In The Nightside... is one of the purest black metal albums to date), once they utilized flashier drumwork, became less black metal. Not saying necessarilly that the reason is behind Trym's flash drum work, but their is a definite correaltion, with a few exceptions, of course. Black metal, in it's purest form, is minimalist in nature. Think "Welcome To Hell". Do it yourself, short on funds and consequently, production, big on conviction. With minimal market value.

Gorgoroth, at least in the early days, utilized pretty straightforward drumming, though, with a focus on hypnotic riffage.
Keep in mind, the second wave was born out of (at least partially) a revolt against death metal. One of the things that is a factor in death metal is a distinct style in drumming. In fact, I remember talking to people in the early days (mid nineties) and the common theme amongst those of us that were into black metal was a general dislike / boredom of death metal.
Like I said, some of the best black metal out there has minimal drumming technique. The main element in black metal is the guitar, and to a certain degree the production; that style of music just sounds more suited to a cavernous, subterannean production.
I liken it to (and I've stated this on more than one occasion) an alpha-wave state of semi-mindlessness. The music becomes almost subliminal, and the presence of flashy, blasty drums robs that quality from the music.

It's not thrash, but some other guy mentioned Venom and some death metal bands and so I thought why not mention the worst of them all. ;)

Whereas the drumming itself is actually thrash drumming. You can hear the same beat on e.g. Kreators Pleasure to Kill. BM blast beats are normally a lot faster, than Fenriz plays the drums on TH.

Btw. the best Thrash drummer for me will always be Dave Lombardo. Yes, Lars Ulrich is not the best, but the Drums were never the important part of Metallica. It was just to be there.

Best Drummer ever - Gene Hoglan