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Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:02 pm

Adveser wrote:

OldSchool wrote:

Adveser wrote:

Songs have gotten lean and mean. No wasted riffs or musical notes when in the past there was a lot of filler and all-around boring shit going on in a song.

Yeah, we all know old Kreator, Overkill, Maiden or Mercyful Fate were all filler and boring shit. You must be living in some alternative universe.

Not what I'm saying. I think someone would basically have to be a producer to get what i'm saying. Music is much denser now and much less repetitive and bears much better with repeat listens. Maybe that is just me.

Its a very strict timing thing. Back in the 80's they would hold a riff in the pocket for a good 20 seconds, now, they wouldn't without changing tempo or key or something.

If I produce a dirty middle finger from the pocket of my very 80s jeans will you shut the fuck up?

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

I realize this is in the Thrash Folder, but I'm talking about the big picture. And lest we forget. Heavy metal was popular in the 80's and a lot more underground today. Not everyone listens to everything and opinions are going to vary a great deal.

Caligula_K · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:56 pm **Posts:** 3561

I actually have no idea what you're saying. You went from there were only three good bands in each genre in the 80s to music then was less dense and more repetitive. I have no idea how you reached these conclusions. I mean, thrash as a genre is pretty much based around constant riff changes; I mean, yes, a lot of early heavy metal bands took the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/solo/chorus root, but many didn't (see Priest's Tyrant, Genocide, Call For the Priest, hell, even some early Helloween) and in any case, a band who breaks out of that same structure these days is still the exception, rather than the rule. Things are probably different in black metal, though, which I don't listen to.

But still.. whats your point?

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:09 am

Yeeeaaah Adveser, fuck off!

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

Brahm_K wrote:

I actually have no idea what you're saying. You went from there were only three good bands in each genre in the 80s to music then was less dense and more repetitive. I have no idea how you reached these conclusions. I mean, thrash as a genre is pretty much based around constant riff changes; I mean, yes, a lot of early heavy metal bands took the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/solo/chorus root, but many didn't (see Priest's Tyrant, Genocide, Call For the Priest, hell, even some early Helloween) and in any case, a band who breaks out of that same structure these days is still the exception, rather than the rule. Things are probably different in black metal, though, which I don't listen to.

But still.. whats your point?

Music is better now than it has ever been, simply put.

EisenFaust · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:19 pm

Adveser wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

I actually have no idea what you're saying. You went from there were only three good bands in each genre in the 80s to music then was less dense and more repetitive. I have no idea how you reached these conclusions. I mean, thrash as a genre is pretty much based around constant riff changes; I mean, yes, a lot of early heavy metal bands took the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/solo/chorus root, but many didn't (see Priest's Tyrant, Genocide, Call For the Priest, hell, even some early Helloween) and in any case, a band who breaks out of that same structure these days is still the exception, rather than the rule. Things are probably different in black metal, though, which I don't listen to.

But still.. whats your point?

Music is better now than it has ever been, simply put.

Besides from the enormous general fallacy of the statement, I can't believe that you just said that in a Thrash discussion :lol:

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:48 pm

EisenFaust wrote:

Adveser wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

I actually have no idea what you're saying. You went from there were only three good bands in each genre in the 80s to music then was less dense and more repetitive. I have no idea how you reached these conclusions. I mean, thrash as a genre is pretty much based around constant riff changes; I mean, yes, a lot of early heavy metal bands took the intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/solo/chorus root, but many didn't (see Priest's Tyrant, Genocide, Call For the Priest, hell, even some early Helloween) and in any case, a band who breaks out of that same structure these days is still the exception, rather than the rule. Things are probably different in black metal, though, which I don't listen to.

But still.. whats your point?

Music is better now than it has ever been, simply put.

Besides from the enormous general fallacy of the statement, I can't believe that you just said that in a Thrash discussion :lol:

What the fuck Adveser. I'm dumbfounded.

Adveser · **Joined:** Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:26 am **Posts:** 2491

no one else thought enemy of god to be one of the best thrash albums ever? :omfg:

Dago · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:25 am

Adveser wrote:

no one else thought enemy of god to be one of the best thrash albums ever? :omfg:

It's good. But one of the best thrash albums ever? Hmmm i dont think so.

Dark Angel-Darkness Descends
Sadus-Illusions (Chemical Exposure)
Mekong Delta-The Music of Erich Zann
Holy Terror-Mind Wars
Voivod-Dimension Hatröss
Coroner-Punishment for Decadence

all fucking destroy it.

showmaster · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:40 am

Dago wrote:

Adveser wrote:

no one else thought enemy of god to be one of the best thrash albums ever? :omfg:

It's good. But one of the best thrash albums ever? Hmmm i dont think so.

Dark Angel-Darkness Descends
Sadus-Illusions (Chemical Exposure)
Mekong Delta-The Music of Erich Zann
Holy Terror-Mind Wars
Voivod-Dimension Hatröss
Coroner-Punishment for Decadence

all fucking destroy it.

Does anybody here haves these albums in mp3 format on your computer, I'm trying to find 'em for a long time

Dago · **Posted:** Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:59 am

I do. I support communism all my music is in mp3 format.

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