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Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  DragonForce argument...
My friend and I were arguing over DragonForce, he said that there is only a couple of musicians that can keep up with the guys from DragonForce. I asked, "Who are the guys who can keep up?" his answer "the only people that can keep up with dragon force are the drummer for all the remains and the guitarist from nevermore" (exact copy and paste). I laughed at this answer, but can anyone prve him wrong. Then I will send him the link next time I see him. Thank you.

PS - I tried to argue with him, but it was late and I couldn't think of anybody. So I came here. :P
Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:32 am ]
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He also said Old Man's Child is black/thrash, is this true?
Author:  Ness [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:45 am ]
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And here come the you tube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q99-k2crW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euCgQ2Ghujc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPtLcfkr ... ed&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14rxZjGzo1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG74eVb6V10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2BOApUvFpw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EctNg0BcTvk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WDqduTnj34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3ld48ZqGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

That'll get you started.
Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:56 am ]
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I would watch them, but I have dial up. (Only 2 more weeks with it!) So I don't know what they are, are they DragonForce? or are they other musicians who can play fast?
Author:  noodles [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:59 am ]
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DONT FORGET THIS ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjOjmRDuWeE

LOLZ

(all ness's videos are guitarists like john petrucci/steve vai/michael angelo battio/yngwie and mine is Dragonforce failing to play their own material)
Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:06 am ]
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noodles wrote:
DONT FORGET THIS ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjOjmRDuWeE

LOLZ

(all ness's videos are guitarists like john petrucci/steve vai/michael angelo battio/yngwie and mine is Dragonforce failing to play their own material)


Jerk.

EDIT - I didnt see the stuff in the brackets, sorry.
Author:  rio [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: DragonForce argument...
DevotedWalnut wrote:
My friend and I were arguing over DragonForce, he said that there is only a couple of musicians that can keep up with the guys from DragonForce. I asked, "Who are the guys who can keep up?" his answer "the only people that can keep up with dragon force are the drummer for all the remains and the guitarist from nevermore" (exact copy and paste). I laughed at this answer, but can anyone prve him wrong. Then I will send him the link next time I see him. Thank you.

PS - I tried to argue with him, but it was late and I couldn't think of anybody. So I came here. :P


Hmm your friend says some crazy stuff.
Author:  Adam [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DragonForce argument...
rio wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
My friend and I were arguing over DragonForce, he said that there is only a couple of musicians that can keep up with the guys from DragonForce. I asked, "Who are the guys who can keep up?" his answer "the only people that can keep up with dragon force are the drummer for all the remains and the guitarist from nevermore" (exact copy and paste). I laughed at this answer, but can anyone prve him wrong. Then I will send him the link next time I see him. Thank you.

PS - I tried to argue with him, but it was late and I couldn't think of anybody. So I came here. :P


Hmm your friend says some crazy stuff.


Indeed. What's really asinine about his argument is that a great many musicians in metal can play at hyperspeed if they feel like it, but they have chosen other styles that don't always give them a chance to showcase this fact.

Oh, and if he thinks Jason Costa of All That Remains is the epitome of a fast drummer, tell him to go listen to Pete Sandoval on Maze of Torment and get back to you.
Author:  Radagast [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:07 pm ]
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Your friend is gay.

Why you didn't use this as your foolproof counterargument is beyond me.
Author:  Dago [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 3:36 pm ]
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Radagast wrote:
Your friend is gay.

Why you didn't use this as your foolproof counterargument is beyond me.


Indeed. Is there any connection between All That Remains, Nevermore and Dragonforce btw? They play 3 completely different styles.
Author:  Ness [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:58 pm ]
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DevotedWalnut wrote:
He also said Old Man's Child is black/thrash, is this true?


Close, but that'd be a no on this too. They are melodic black/death IMO.
Author:  stuartn15ted [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:43 pm ]
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guthrie govan is just amazing at every style you care to name. Trust me! he really is! He teaches at my college and all the other guitar tutors (who in their own right are pretty fucking amazing) think hes one of the best in the world. Check him out on youtube when u get ur new connection.
Author:  noodles [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:31 pm ]
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DevotedWalnut wrote:
noodles wrote:
DONT FORGET THIS ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjOjmRDuWeE

LOLZ

(all ness's videos are guitarists like john petrucci/steve vai/michael angelo battio/yngwie and mine is Dragonforce failing to play their own material)


Jerk.

EDIT - I didnt see the stuff in the brackets, sorry.

haha it's ok.

People who say Dragonforce guitarists are amazing really annoys me because pretty much every live video or whatever I've seen their solos have been ridiculously sloppy :\
Author:  stuartn15ted [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:37 pm ]
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noodles wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
noodles wrote:
DONT FORGET THIS ONE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjOjmRDuWeE

LOLZ

(all ness's videos are guitarists like john petrucci/steve vai/michael angelo battio/yngwie and mine is Dragonforce failing to play their own material)


Jerk.

EDIT - I didnt see the stuff in the brackets, sorry.

haha it's ok.

People who say Dragonforce guitarists are amazing really annoys me because pretty much every live video or whatever I've seen their solos have been ridiculously sloppy :\

Noodles gets it right again!! two in the space of minutes!!!

Check out guthrie!!
Author:  Antonakis [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:59 am ]
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I don't think you can compare the 2 Dragonforce guitarists with Guthrie Govan or Satch or Stevie or Yngwie or Gilbert etc etc. While those first 2 are speed guitar-wankers, gunthrie and the rest are serious musicians and artists above all. They're not trying to prove anything because they don't have to. Comparisons like who's the fastest guitarist, drummer etc only prove the immaturity and lack of musical depth& understanding of the people who do them.
Author:  KinderGentlerGenocide [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:51 am ]
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Not that he's in the same field of music, but...

Moyses Kolesne of Krisiun is probably better than both Herman and Sam, as well. He's been doing that speed since they were fiddling around in that black metal group... BFD came out in 1995. Listen to that, and tell me... Tell me he's not fucking insane.

And, in case anyone has some shit remark about him not being on the level with other's mentioned, his passion falls into both metal and jazz guitar. He both understands the art of guitar, and has taken original metal guitar material to a new level. He's the perfect mix of technical genius and self taught wonder.
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:57 am ]
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metalNESS wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
He also said Old Man's Child is black/thrash, is this true?


Close, but that'd be a no on this too. They are melodic black/death IMO.


I'd feel more comfortable calling them Symphonic Black Metal, but that's just me, yo. :dio:
Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:40 pm ]
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Zakk Wylde pwns the shit out of anyone, simply because he's got so many balls, and he's so fucking awesome!
Author:  Rhys [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: DragonForce argument...
Adam wrote:
rio wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
My friend and I were arguing over DragonForce, he said that there is only a couple of musicians that can keep up with the guys from DragonForce. I asked, "Who are the guys who can keep up?" his answer "the only people that can keep up with dragon force are the drummer for all the remains and the guitarist from nevermore" (exact copy and paste). I laughed at this answer, but can anyone prve him wrong. Then I will send him the link next time I see him. Thank you.

PS - I tried to argue with him, but it was late and I couldn't think of anybody. So I came here. :P


Hmm your friend says some crazy stuff.


Indeed. What's really asinine about his argument is that a great many musicians in metal can play at hyperspeed if they feel like it, but they have chosen other styles that don't always give them a chance to showcase this fact.

Oh, and if he thinks Jason Costa of All That Remains is the epitome of a fast drummer, tell him to go listen to Pete Sandoval on Maze of Torment and get back to you.


tell him to check out Derrick Roddy and Flo Mounier as well.
Author:  Ness [ Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:20 pm ]
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This will answer all of your questions about Herman Lee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSNLfa1VPwo


HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!! :lol:
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