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 Post subject: Control Denied's 2nd album to be released this year (o_O?)
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:40 pm 
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seems pretty dramatic


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Going by that, I take the record company guy's side. But it all seems pretty morbid, like they're arguing over the last scraps of meat on Chuck's bones...


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:19 pm 
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If it's the same guy who released that godawful Demo recording a few years ago he can go fuck himself. That thing sounded terrible, and was a complete rip-off. Chuck probably rolled over in his grave knowing his fans were getting such a poor product.

As for this, I don't want to hear it that bad if it's causing this much trouble. Plus from what I understand it wasn't even half done before Chuck got ill, so I'm not sure that what we'll wind up getting will be anything close to Chuck's vision. I know Richard will do a good job and be a class act about it, he loved Chuck like a brother, but I don't feel right about the whole thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:38 pm 
Both sides are annoying as hell; they're both shitting on his grave with their nonsense.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:26 pm 
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Tim Aymar's message...

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"There have been many false conclusions drawn over these past several years in regard to the situation, but I will explain as best I can in order to clarify the reasons for CONTROL DENIED's second CD not being completed.

"Many readers have mistaken the fact that Chuck's sister took the master tapes and tried to get another company to buy the rights as an act of selfishness or greed, which is not the case at all. Nothing could be further from the truth. I knew because I was told directly from Chuck, while he was still well enough to talk to me, that Hammerheart was not a financially stable enough company to handle the bands already on their roster, and they had not been fulling their obligations as far as the promises that had been made. After researching a bit and hearing from some of the artists already on the label, Chuck wanted out of the deal. Not to take the money and run, like Guido explains it, but like a gentleman, like a fair and honest businessman, to buy his way out of the deal.

"The way Chuck explained things to me was that if he were to die, then under no circumstances did he want the band, and especially his family, to suffer the loss not only of himself, but to be stuck with a useless record deal, that would send us, his most respected friends, into a bad situation. Under no circumstances was that recording to be finished until his sister, who is his executor, Bethanne, could hand the record over to another company, who would first pay off Hammerheart everything that was owed to them, and release this record properly, and give the musicians maybe not a luxurious deal but at least something fair, and his estate would receive his royalties. He knew that it would be hard for the public to grasp, and it would all cause quite a distubance amongst the fans, that Heijnens would not be giving in easily, and his family, our bandmates, would be plagued with accusations and out-and-out attacks.

"It is unfortunate that Guido found out about Bethanne trying to bargain and get him his money, because he blew the deal for her, and fucked himself. I was told by Chuck to wait, to stand my ground, and not take any bullshit or slander from the record company, the press, or even the fans, and not to give out any information until I was told the record was absolutely safe from Hammerheart.

"Because of the stress surrounding Chuck's death, and the ordeal with Hammerheart, the bandmembers are separated, and almost completely non-communicating. I'm not sure how it was explained to them, because it is so hard to talk about. When you don't talk to someone for long periods of time, it's not the first thing you want to bring up in conversation.

"I love my bandmates all so dearly that I'm fucking devastated, and I can't go on without bringing this to light. Chuck gave his entire life to his fans and his bands, and took very little for himself except for the mighty crown on his head for being brave enough to do it. He ordered that CD to be postponed until we could all reap the benefits. Every one of us, fans, publications, the musicians themselves rely on something that Chuck gave to us, left here for us, and all we can seem to do is fight and call each other names and blame each other for not having? He died making sure we would benefit from it in our hearts.

"[The second CONTROL DENIED album] will be finished, it will be released, but only when we can be certain nobody else will destroy it before we can do the way Chuck planned it. That's all, nobody on our side is trying to steal anything from anyone, we all just want to make sure it's done according to Chuck's last wish.

"Today I live five blocks away from Chuck's mother. Bethanne isn't far away either, and her son Chris lives the closest to me. The day I did the interview that Guido Heijnens is shaking his fist and screaming that I'm an idiot making all these things up was Thanksgiving evening, 30 minutes after I got home from dinner at Jane Schuldiner's home. Knowing I had this interview, I spoke with her and Christopher for several hours about the facts surrounding this mess that won't seem to ever go away, even after it had been settled in court.

"Chuck's last wish was to release the CD on a label that would not harm the band or his family, and would promote the record well enough assure that our fans would be completely and forever satisfied with every aspect of the release.

"You only get to do one last record. He wanted the advertising done in a timely manner and with high-quality ads, the distribution to reach every fan possible, and everything all the way down the line to be just right. He knew Hammerheart was way too small and way too broke, and way too unorganized. And now you can see by the display of Mr. Heijnens' demeanor in his letter just what kind of relationship we would have had in business.

"And directly to you Mr. Heijnens, my problem was never that you were too small; it was that you were not big enough to say you were sorry. When you 'accidentally' called me on the phone, you asked how I was, and to me it seemed only as a formality, then without a pause, you asked how I thought the record was. Well, sir, no matter how good it sounds, it will never sound the same."


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:05 pm 
http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net ... emID=64892

After reading more from the label this time around, I'm gonna go and say that Chuck's family are trying to rip this guy off. I think Chuck's family inherited this money, spent it, and now don't wish to pay it back.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:19 pm 
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Yeah, that's what it seems like to me too. Hopefully the Schuldiner's will do what they're actually saying and get a label that pays back the old one then releases an album :\


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:55 pm 
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Yeah, that's what it seems like to me too. Hopefully the Schuldiner's will do what they're actually saying and get a label that pays back the old one then releases an album :\

The label owner has stood by his word since the beginning, and the more that I read Chuck's family offers nothing but hearsay. Guido is offering proof. He's not showing it to us, of course, but he's backing up his claims with what would be irrefutable fact if it were true. Chuck's family is doing nothing but deflection and finger-pointing. Truly sad, if you ask me.


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