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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:09 am 
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I am going away this weekend to a friends house. He lives near a lot of cd stores, and I am currently trying to have a power metal revolution (I have been listening to a lot of thrash and death metal) and I know this one store has a good metal selection and there is quite a few of HammerFall cds their so I need to know what is the best in their discography. In order from best to worst (I own none of their albums, and own very few power metal albums at all). They also have some Kamelot, so if you could do the same with their discography it would be greatly appreciated. I have until Thursday night to read what you all have to say.

Thank you in advance.

PS If you have any other good power metal bands or bands that would be good that are more popular and could probaly be found in a HMV or something like that it would also be greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:16 am 
I only have the I Want Out EP by Hammerfall and I only have The Black Halo by Kamelot.

The I Want Out EP has a nice cover of the Helloween classic, but it's essentially identical. I know that doesn't help much, but I ramble. :roll:

The Black Halo, however, is awesome! I bought that CD late last year and listened to it hundreds of times in about a month! It's killer. I highly recommend that one.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:24 am 
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With HammerFall, there's two albums that spring to mind as being essential; "Glory To The Brave" and "Legacy Of Kings." Especially "Glory To The Brave."


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Carnifex Umbris wrote:
With HammerFall, there's two albums that spring to mind as being essential; "Glory To The Brave" and "Legacy Of Kings." Especially "Glory To The Brave."


Hammerfall I dig ok, you will like if you like a mix of Dokken and Aceppt. Anyways all of their albums are decent but the 1st 2 are the best, the newest one is pretty good also.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:20 am 
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Popular and good bands: Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian

Good albums by them are:
Helloween:
Better Than Raw
The Dark Ride
Rabbit Don't Come Easy

Gamma:
Land of the Free
Powerplant
No World Order!

BG:
Imaginations From the Other Side
Nightfall In Middle Earth
Tales From the Twilight World


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:44 am 
Kamelot are one of the best PM bands out there. I agree with Ken that The Black Halo is amazing, but it also has some filler songs. Epica, however, is perfect in my opinion, with Karma and The Fourth Legacy following closely.

Get them ASAP!!

Other amazing PM bands are Dionysus, Dreamtale and Masterplan.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:01 am 
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Id say Masterplan is more of a Melodic Metal/Hard Rock band.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:09 am 
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Scion wrote:
Id say Masterplan is more of a Melodic Metal/Hard Rock band.



Paragon - Revenge
Morgana Le Fay - The secret Doctrine
BG - what others wrote
Tad Morose - Matters of the Dark
Iced Earth - Something Wicked
Angel Dust - Enlighten the Darkness
Primal Fear - Black Sun
Twisted Tower Dire - Crest of the Martyr
Wolf - Evil Star
Sonata Arctica - Reckoning Night
Brainstorm - Soul Temptation
Axxis - Paradise in Flames (new album but is so awesome)
Edguy - Mandrake (it is a great album)
Avantasia - The Metal Opera part I (it is fucking great too)

What others wrote is cool too


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Hammerfall
1 - Glory to the Brave
2 - Legacy of Kings

Kamelot
1 - Karma
2 - Epica
3 - The Black Halo

As for power metal suggestions, I don't know where to start. I guess you could just go with the big names. Gamma Ray, Helloween, Stratovarius, Edguy.

Here are some suggestions -
Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera
Iron Savior - Condition Red
Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys II
Avantasia - I or II
Stratovarius - Visions

Any one of those cds should work for you if you want to explore the genre. I recommend going there websites and listening to some samples before going on a spending spree.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:33 am 
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HammerFall:

1 Glory to the Brave
2 Legacy of Kings
---line of awesome---
3 Crimson Thunder
4 Rengeade
5 Chapter V

Kamelot:
1 Epica
2 The Black Halo
3 The Fourth Legacy
4 Karma
---line of awesome---
5 Eternity
6 Seige Perilous
7 Dominion


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:36 am 
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get all the Sonata Arctica you can find. Also the AINA metal opera is a great pm record.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:43 am 
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Hammerfall:
1. Legacy of Kings (it has my 2 favorite HF songs, Heeding the Call and Stronger Than All)
2. Glory to the Brave

Kamelot:
Everything with Roy Khan is excellent.

metalNESS wrote:
As for power metal suggestions, I don't know where to start. I guess you could just go with the big names. Gamma Ray, Helloween, Stratovarius, Edguy.

Here are some suggestions -
Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera
Iron Savior - Condition Red
Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys II
Avantasia - I or II
Stratovarius - Visions


That's a very good list, but I wouldn't use ANATO to introduce BG to a thrash fan. He should start with Imaginations... or Tales from the Twilight World.

And imho, Avantasia is ten thousand times better than Aina.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:58 am 
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December Flower wrote:

That's a very good list, but I wouldn't use ANATO to introduce BG to a thrash fan. He should start with Imaginations... or Tales from the Twilight World.


Good Point
December Flower wrote:

And imho, Avantasia is ten thousand times better than Aina.



agreed


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:02 pm 
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Kamelot and Hammerfall are two great bands indeed, and almost all the sugested bands are excellent as well, but there is so much more to discover. With other words, i hereby ask all of the PM-heads to share some new discoveries :twisted:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:07 pm 
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Just for you Flingon, go listen to Sabaton and Hibria if you haven't already. Silent Force also make great speedy melodic PM.

Angel Dust don't seem to get a lot of mention, but I stroblgy recommend them. Melodic PM with a crunchy centre and a great (powerful midrange) vocalist.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:32 pm 
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For some slightly more unknown, but excellent power metal you should check out Edenbridge, Redemption and Wuthering Heights. But you probably know of them already...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:51 pm 
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metalNESS wrote:
Hammerfall
1 - Glory to the Brave
2 - Legacy of Kings

Kamelot
1 - Karma
2 - Epica
3 - The Black Halo

As for power metal suggestions, I don't know where to start. I guess you could just go with the big names. Gamma Ray, Helloween, Stratovarius, Edguy.

Here are some suggestions -
Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera
Iron Savior - Condition Red
Gamma Ray - Somewhere Out in Space
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys II
Avantasia - I or II
Stratovarius - Visions

Any one of those cds should work for you if you want to explore the genre. I recommend going there websites and listening to some samples before going on a spending spree.


Good to see someone else on here digs Avantasia. Part 2 left me cold but part 1 smokes.

If you like the Hammerfall style I would suggest Pegazus - Breaking the chains as well.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:53 pm 
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Radagast wrote:
Just for you Flingon, go listen to Sabaton and Hibria if you haven't already. Silent Force also make great speedy melodic PM.

Angel Dust don't seem to get a lot of mention, but I stroblgy recommend them. Melodic PM with a crunchy centre and a great (powerful midrange) vocalist.


Yeah AD rules, but what was their last album called? It escapes me but it sucked. But EtD and the one before it fucking own. Dudes vocals smoke. That song Breaking the Chains on EtD is so good.

You know despite all of you all being dicks (kidding) this is still the coolest place around for Power Metal love even if some of it you all dig I can't stand.

Hey has anyone on here heard Widow on Cruz del la Sur label (same as Pharoah). I almost bought one of their albums in Taiwan, same with Hyberia. Worth it or not?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:39 pm 
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I definitely agree on the Angel Dust. EtD is quite awesome.

Some stuff that I haven't seen mentioned (might have missed it though).

Adagio - Dominate
Edguy - Hellfire Club (others too but HC pwns)
Freedom Call - Eternity
LOST HORIZON - BOTH ALBUMS


Looks like everybody else has great suggestions too.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:53 pm 
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HammerFall

1. Chapter V
2. Crimson Thunder
3. Glory To The Brave
4. Legacy Of Kings
5. Renegade

Kamelot

1. The Black Halo
2. Epica
3. Karma

every other Kamelot album is rat shit (IMO)

Other bands to think about:

Primal Fear, Iron Savior, Messiah's Kiss, Domine, Insania, Heavenly, Majesty, Nocturnal Rites, Freedom Call, Dreamtale, Dragonland, Dream Evil, Cryonic Temple, Blind Guardian and Edguy.

That should keep you busy


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