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Yeah the first album is fucking classic. The second album is really awesome but 3 years after the second album I still maintain the first album triumphant over it.
This is exactly how I feel.
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:09 pm ] |
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I finally listened to the first album (disclaimer: I've meant to listen to it for years but never really got around to it, for some reason) and it's excellent. I was wondering if Schaffer and Kursch plan in making a third album with this project, because I'd love it if they did. |
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| Author: | Tompa [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:22 pm ] |
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It's a great album, I'd rank it up there with the best ones from Iced Earth (who are one of my very favorite bands). I'm sure there will be a third album some day, it will probably be a few years away though. There needs to be a break the schedule of both Jon and Hansi and they're both busy, busy men. |
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| Author: | The Silent Man [ Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:54 pm ] |
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Yeah the first album is fucking classic. The second album is really awesome but 3 years after the second album I still maintain the first album triumphant over it. |
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| Author: | Ness [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:26 am ] |
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I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though. |
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:58 pm ] |
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metalNESS wrote: I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though.
Barlow's vocals took some getting used to for me when I bought my first Iced Earth album (Horror Show) in 2001. But now, they're among my five favorite bands. Touched By The Crimson King is a grower. When I first listened to it, I didn't see what the big deal was. But now, after listening to it many times, I love the album. Beneath These Waves and Spatial Architects are probably my two favorite songs. But pretty much every song on the album is a winner, with the weakest probably being that Led Zeppelin cover (Immigrant Song). |
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| Author: | Clint-metalcdratings [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:02 pm ] |
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Quote: Yeah the first album is fucking classic. The second album is really awesome but 3 years after the second album I still maintain the first album triumphant over it.
This is exactly how I feel.
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| Author: | TheMetalWarrior316 [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:00 pm ] |
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metalNESS wrote: I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though. For me it's reversed. I like Iced Earth, but I don't like D&W because of the guitar riffs - and I also don't like, that Jon Schaffer has brought the D&W riffing to Iced Earth. Just compare "Something Wicked this way comes" with "Horrorshow".
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| Author: | Goat [ Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:16 pm ] |
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I should get ahold of the D&W albums, if they really are a cross of Blind Guardian and Iced Earth - pretty much my two favourite Power Metal bands. |
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:58 am ] |
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TheMetalWarrior316 wrote: metalNESS wrote: I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though. For me it's reversed. I like Iced Earth, but I don't like D&W because of the guitar riffs - and I also don't like, that Jon Schaffer has brought the D&W riffing to Iced Earth. Just compare "Something Wicked this way comes" with "Horrorshow".I dunno. I thought Horror Show was supposed to be a (musical) return to the band's Dark Saga days, as the album sounded a lot more like The Dark Saga than Something Wicked did. |
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| Author: | 5/3/// [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:41 am ] |
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Strangely enough, while I'm not fond of either Iced Earth or Blind Guardian, I enjoyed Demons & Wizards quite a bit. Their second album was a huge disappointment though. |
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| Author: | TheMetalWarrior316 [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:40 pm ] |
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Seinfeld26 wrote: TheMetalWarrior316 wrote: metalNESS wrote: I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though. For me it's reversed. I like Iced Earth, but I don't like D&W because of the guitar riffs - and I also don't like, that Jon Schaffer has brought the D&W riffing to Iced Earth. Just compare "Something Wicked this way comes" with "Horrorshow".I dunno. I thought Horror Show was supposed to be a (musical) return to the band's Dark Saga days, as the album sounded a lot more like The Dark Saga than Something Wicked did. Really? For me it's more european style [Blind Guardian] while Dark Saga or Burnt Offerings or Night of the Stormrider or Something Wicked are more US power metal with thrash mix. Just Compare: US/Power/Thrash-Metal Style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwO53m_-3fs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXpWjPNAA-w European/Power/Speed-Metal Style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xG0etegv78 Wolf from Horrorshow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCnXrXr1TU |
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| Author: | Caligula_K [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:13 pm ] |
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I love the first album, which IMO has one of the best ballads of all time- Fiddler on the Green. I thought the second one was pretty average though- some good songs and the rest was pretty forgettable. |
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:31 pm ] |
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Clint-metalcdratings wrote: Quote: Yeah the first album is fucking classic. The second album is really awesome but 3 years after the second album I still maintain the first album triumphant over it. This is exactly how I feel. I will gladly agree with the original sentiment as well!!  Touched By The Crimson King was a really good CD but it did contain some weak tracks. The first D&W was a devilish metal delight in it's entirety. 
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| Author: | Thomas [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:36 pm ] |
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Think I'll give this band another shot, remember disliking what I heard once, and wrote them off. Where should I start? |
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| Author: | Tompa [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:52 am ] |
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metal_xxx wrote: Think I'll give this band another shot, remember disliking what I heard once, and wrote them off. Where should I start?
Well there are just two albums :) The debut (self titled) is definitely the better album, though it's darker and might not be as easily accessible as the second album, Touched By The Crimson King. They are a bit different stylistically but you can't go wrong with either really. |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:37 pm ] |
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All this talk of the original D&W release has prompted me to put it onto my new Zune. I was getting a good dose of "Poor Man's Crusade" this morning during my drive to my 7am math class.
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| Author: | Tompa [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:35 pm ] |
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Spaceman Spiffle wrote: All this talk of the original D&W release has prompted me to put it onto my new Zune. I was getting a good dose of "Poor Man's Crusade" this morning during my drive to my 7am math class.
Yeah I got the same urge
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| Author: | Kuruus [ Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:54 am ] |
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metalNESS wrote: I can't stand Iced Earth. I still can't put my finger on it and I've tried numerous times to like them. Anyway, I don't know why, but for whatever reason I love the first D&W. So many awesome riffs and Hansi sounds amazing as usual. The second one is pretty boring though.
I had the exact opposite problem. I love Iced Earth, but I've never been able to get into Blind Guardian, which is why I ignored D&W for so long. Glad I eventually gave the ST a chance, as it is really quite excellent. |
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| Author: | OldSchool [ Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:23 am ] |
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Zad wrote: I should get ahold of the D&W albums, if they really are a cross of Blind Guardian and Iced Earth - pretty much my two favourite Power Metal bands.
Do it, it's basically IE riffing + BG vocal melodies. I like both their albums, almost equally. Probably the first one is a bit beter, Blood On My Hands is an unbelievable song. |
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| Author: | Fatpom [ Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:51 am ] |
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I prefer Crimson King personally. Much more accessible and has more of a mixure of stuff. Love's Tragedy Asunder is the best track. |
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