Metal Reviews

I think we have all seen "acceptable" bands release albums that have been trashed - simply because more was expected of them. Look at opeth, Dream Theater, and even (more validly) Metallica. Maybe, and this is only a suggestion, maybe the new Trivium album looks so good because less was expected of them. If your statement was - Considering this is Trivium, its damn good, I couldn't argue it. But would it be a good album if, say, Nevermore released it.

Anyway, I think we are just arguing semantics and basic music idealogy, which is based on personal opinion, so I dont feel the need to beat a dead horse. Anyway, this discussion has been a shining example of civility. You go listen to your Trivium, I wont tell you not to. I just hope this doesnt become like Stefan with Avenged Sevenfold.

Megadeth is the only band you just named that would ever come close to releasing an album like this. If my favorite black metal band released an album like this I'd be pissed! Let's keep it in context, yo.

And no, it doesn't sound like nu-metal.

But this isn't Nevermore's style, so no, it wouldn't seem right. I've always thought Trivium were a great band musically. I could never really stand the screaming. I liked Ascendancy more, but again, the vocals kill it for me.

This album is no different musically. And yeah, I expected less, of course, but when they began releasing songs online I was intrigued. Now I truly feel that this is a great metal album. Not because it's more than I expected—which it is—but because I find it to simply be a damn good album. I've listened to it a shitload to know that my opinion stands; it would have gotten old by now if I was just a bit taken by surprise.


Trivium KO1

I know Nevermore is adifferent style but I was speaking in terms of overall quality of an album, in whichever genre. But, that aside, where would you put the new Trivium album in with the top albums that came out this year? Everyone will have a different list, but could you compare them to whatever your list might be at this time. Do they crack your top 5? This is just for my curiousity.

No. This will not crack the top 5, but let me give it some more listens. I could see it in my top 20.

Please, Metal Blade has spent a fortune on promoting that band. As someone who works in advertising, I know for a fact that you can polish a turd if you promote it enough. Budweiser is far from even the best American beer, but through aggresive marketing we have conquered the market. I'm just saying, even in the Metalcore genre you can find better bands than Trivium, you just don't hear about them because they don't have a marketing blitz like Trivium does.

Anything can be sold. That is true.

But still, our opinions all differ on how good Trivium is.

i never say thank you on kerrazy. I just download. But I do seed.

Trivium is signed to Roadrunner, so whatever...

They do get a lot of publicity (for the metal community, at least) but for me that doesn't change my opinion that they're a solid band. Honestly, they're the best NEW thrash band I've heard. There's not a lot of thrash being released nowadays (at least not much that I know of) and for me these guys top the list.

I'm not saying they're better than Megadeth, Testament, Overkill, or Metallica, though...because they're not.

Weird how you just ignored the first part and went right to the Marketing bit. I hope your marketing skills aren't as bad as your generalization of the people who listen to Trivium.

I agree that marketing will help in selling a product that isn't great ( which is not the case of Trivium IMO), but in no way will it make complete shit sell. Paris Hilton's crap would sell even without advertising because of curiosity and the fact that she is already known before releasing anything. In The case of Trivium I have never seen the advertising level (or any advertising in media ) that Paris or any other commercial artist usually gets. When Coldplay gets a CD out we see it plastered everywhere, and for Trivium I have yet to see anything on their upcoming one.

ENTRANCE OF THE CONFLAGRATION (Video)

Awesome fucking song, too!

I will buy a Paris Hilton album before I will buy this, I am just weird that way about my metal.

i would screw paris hilton before i screw the dudes in trivium. I'm just wierd about it this way. (no matter how gay the guys in trivium are)

Take comedy off your resume.

yah it's not that good, i know, but one day I will make you die laughing.

Indeed, the singer has a lot of potential.. Just check out Capharnaum-Fractured to believe.

Ok, here’s an opinion from someone neutral; i’ve never heard a single song by this band before, nor have i ever heard about this band.

Impressions from my first spin… (I write as I listen)
First two songs had some hints of thrash, third and fourth song are pretty much straight power metal.
The vocalist is (technically) ok, nothing more. The singing style is horrible at times though. Listen to ‘Ignition’ around 1:15… i hate that pussy ass bitch soft style.
So far the album is ok, with strains of some really good metal, the hot picks being the soloing and instrumental breaks in ‘Detonation’, most of the riffs in ‘Entrance of the Conflagration’.
The downside are the vocals, ranging from horrible to merely OK.
I get the feeling on some songs that this been done better before by other bands…
Ok, a fast forward…
‘Unrepentant’ and ‘Becoming the Dragon’ take on a more sinister, moody tone which I like. These songs are thrashier than song 3 and 4, too.

Well, I’m not really gonna get into the rest of the songs. This isn’t my style of music.
What I’ve heard I would rate around 55-65, with a big penalty for the vocal style. Had they actually had a singer with balls I’d give it around 75-85/100. The album is very consistent but it’s a bit too conventional and unexciting… the big turndown are the vocals. Instrumentally the band is more than fine.

Horrible to OK vocals? What planet of insanely gifted singers are you people from?

I think this is a very fair and honest review. It also coincides with most of the other comments on this forum. The singer really grates on people to the point that it detracts from the music.

ANd the world of incredibly talented singers that we live in is the metal world. There are a ton of really great singers in every genre. There are also plenty of shitty singers on good bands. An example would be the band Textures and their album Polars. A brilliant musical album full of technical playing and a singer that makes Heafy look like God.

Ken, Why do you attack fluffy ferrets opinion on the singer? He didnt attack your stance, he just voiced an opinion.

Who attacked him? If I were attacking him I'm sure I could have come up with something a lot meaner than that!