Metal Reviews

Iced Earth did, in fact, make the Billboard Top 200 with The Glorious Burden (#144 I believe). Helloween did too in the late 80s. As well as Nightwish.

Also, what exactly is that "Heatseekers" chart anyway?

there's actually a discussion going on about nightwish and within temptation? it seems to me that it should be very easy... they both suck like hell. I don't like female fronted bands in metal (not to be sexist, i just don't like the female voices) and nightwish and wt are the worst. I don't even talk about evanescence... that's below consideration...
power metal isn't based on homoeroticism!! the singer just sounds like he's had his testicles removed, thats all. but Tony Kakko is amazing...

We could have plenty more, which is very possible. I know how much you'll love that...




You dont like female fronted metal bands, thats fine, but just cause you dont like a females voice doesnt mean their band sucks. Thats just ignorance on your part...

You know Arthur is laughing his "balls" off at you right now for accusing them of going mainstream right?

I didn't say the bands suck. Nightwish are all good players, but the voice just ruins it for me, I don't know why... At least they got rid of Tarjy now, hope the new singer will be better...

Do you just not like operatic vocals, or female vocals in general? I hate Tarja's voice; I've never gotten into Nightwish as a result, though I quite enjoy Within Temptation.

naw i like operatic voices, but for some reason only on guys... I just don't like female voices... no offence...

That is what you wrote...

So the bands are OK, its just the singers you dont like? You could have explained it better in your original post.
I understand how people can be put off by certain female singers voices, but for me those two vocalists sound angelic. I just hope whoever Nightwish choose as their replacement, that they have a damn awesome voice...

yeah sorry that was bad. what i meant was that the voices ruined the otherwise good bands.

After several hours (read: nanoseconds) of agonising I considered it a price worth paying to get my point across.

That was a joke, as indicated by the smiley.

BWHAHAHahahAHAHAahhaaa!!!!

Oh wait, I could give two shits about any of those bands, plus that's not even what I said.

This doesn't actually say anything, it's just really hard to read.

I'll cotribute to this flame by pointing out there are several female vocalists with tons of more "testicular" voice volume than several of their male colleagues. For instance Federica De Boni (White Skull) vs Kotipelto, Lori Wilde (Black Knight) vs James LaBrie, Kim Gos (Synergy) vs Andre Matos and the list goes on and on!!!

As for Nightwish I really never thought strato-metal with operatic vocals is anything special. I'd rather the bassist focused on Tarrot so they may release another "Spell of Iron". Plus when I watched them live they sounded dreadful, too much keyboards and prerecorded orchestral parts to actually let any guitars sound through, although Tarja's stage presence was more metal than the lot of them! Within Temptation isn't really metal, so I don't know if it counts.

Strato-metal? What Nightwish are you listening to?

Stratovarius does not sound like Nightwish, nor does Nightwish sound like Stratovarius, with or without the operatic vocals....

Bits and pieces on Oceanborn and Wishmaster have obvious Strato influences (see: Crownless).

Nope, never have i compared the two bands to each other

They are different, only very slight simalarities

I was talking more along the lines of pompous euro power with keyboards, and the similar orchestration. The only Nightwish album I have (or rather used to have, because after I watched them live I gave it away), was Wishmaster and there were several strato references in that one, but the operatic vocals do indeed have the ability to "mutate" the entire result. Don't get me wrong, I don't care much for stratovarius either