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I knew that would piss you off

Relax man, I mostly agree with you and your antidownloading crusade.

But I just don't see the point with this one. Re-recording a what, 1 year old album, for the sake of making a fucking box-set, just strikes me so badly as nothing but a moneygrabber. Which I think is pretty fucking sly.

And don't call me an asshole. I buy all my music. That comment was thrown out in frustration.

http://www.metalcovenant.com/pages/cdre ... of_man.htm

????? Are they reviewing downloaded albums, I havent seen a retail version anywhere yet....or is it a promo copy that they would be reviewing...?????

Yes, but then we have people like me that paid 15 goddamn POUNDS (thirty dollars, remember) for the first part. I don't mind giving money to Iced Earth, but there's no way that album prices here are fair. Not everyone steals everything...

And rerecorded albums are never worth the price of the original, especially if they're released within a year or so. I'm not saying it's not fair, but it does seem like a bit of a cash cow, because Jon knows full damn well that people like thee and I will buy more or less whatever he puts out. I'm interested to hear the rerecording, but I definately prefer Ripper's vocals, so unless they make it really different...

Fairly depressing review, to boot.

Aren't Promo copies sent out for that very reason? So that they can be reviewed before the release date as promotion?

I pretty much agree with the review though. Good, but nothing exciting

I'm not anti-downloading. If I were I'd be a huge hypocrite. I just hate that fans think bands owe them something, like the simple fact that they're a fan somehow gives them control over the band's choices. It's just ridiculous. Apply that thinking to anything else and those very same people would be like, "Fuck that! That's stealing. Not to mention arrogant."

As for this re-recording, I actually think it makes more sense to do this than not do it. If Tim sang both, this box set was coming out. This isn't anything new. Deluxe editions have been around long before the whole reissue thing came about. Shit, Days of Purgatory got the deluxe edition treatment, as did Alive In Athens. It wouldn't make sense to include part one with Tim and part two with Matt in a box set. So next year they'll release a re-recording of part one with Matt on vocals and an expanded part two.

You don't have to buy it. But anyone feeling like they have a right to download the album is, to put it simply, an asshole. Whether or not you truly meant that or not, it applies to all those—and there are plenty!—that do mean it.

Did you watch the press conference? Watch it. Maybe your opinion will change.

Websites that are supposed to "support" bands and music in general always review downloaded music. This website is guilty of it, as is every other one out there.

And that review sucks. Suggesting all the big choruses and stuff weren't necessary is a joke, especially after the turd reviewing it acknowledged that this was part two to a story. Duh! It has be stylistically consistent!

But let's be honest here, when a reviewer cannot find it in himself to name one single song in a review, he hasn't listened to it enough to justify giving a verbal opinion, let alone writing a word about it. That guy is a turd.

Yeh what he said...

I have listened to " I Walk alone " Ep.. The Clouding is my fav from part 1..who would of thought that Barlow could make it sound better...IMHO

Bring on Barlow and When is this boxset on sale...?????

Christmas 2009.

Which, by the way, will be more than two years after Framing Armageddon was released.

This is why, even though I think Metallica handled it the wrong way, I can see where they were coming from with their problems with Napster. And I too find it ridiculous how a lot of music fans seem to think that, just because they're fans of a band, the band somehow must do everything they want them to do. For example, the way people were saying, "Judas Priest owes it to their fans to bring Rob Halford back" when Tim Owens was in the band. Errr, I'm sorry but JP doesn't owe their fans anything. THEY were the ones who made the music and called the shots. YOU simply liked what they did. Why should they owe you anything? If anything, it's the other way around. The fans owe Judas Priest for making such great music.

Most people, unfortunately, don't realize that downloading music for free IS illegal because of the way copyright laws work. Heck, I remember the creater of Kazaa once pointing out in an interview that a lot of these "file sharers" who were pissed at bands like Metallica for being anti-Napster never even heard the word "copyright" before (literally), let alone didn't know that music was copyrighted. While Metallica definitely handled the whole Napster situation the wrong way, you have to at least understand where they were coming from.

I don't think Metallica handled the Napster thing wrong at all. They were simply the first band to challenge that new era of stealing music. And they happened to be a huge band. No matter who the band was that stepped up first, there would have been a backlash.

The way I see it if it wasn't for the fans bands wouldn't exist because we pay for the music so in a sense bands do owe us if we don't like what we hear we are going to stop buying their music and if you get every fan to do that well then it hurts the band and the record companies.

Huh? Of course they do. As with any band, they would be shit without their fans' support. You don't think JP's fans that buy cds, t-shirts, and especially, who go to their lives shows - some of whom have been doing so for decades - are owed, at least, for the band to acknowledge what might make them pleased?

I think some people have a total misconception or misunderstanding of what the word "owe" means.

Yes, but it goes both ways. While I agree that JP should consistently try to please their fans, they shouldn't do it at the expense of their own pleasure. If they naturally want to do something a little different, the fans shouldn't criticize them for it. They don't necessarily need to like it, but they shouldn't get mad at JP if their change was with pure intentions (ie. not just to sell out). I guess, now that you mention it, I do think JP at least owes their fans a proper "Thank You" for being so loyal to them. But to say JP owed it to their fans to bring back Halford when Owens was still in the band (yes, there were people doing that a little after Demolition was released) is ludicrous.

Bands owe you nothing. Not a damn thing.

Ok so I pay for their lively hood their source of income which most bands usually do so they owe us nothing but then again your opinion usually means jack shit around here these days so roll your eyes at me all you want to Ken your credibility has been shot so I could care less.

Not to defend Ken or anything, but you srsly need to learn how to use commas. Nao.

Could care less? COULD CARE LESS? !

This isn't Devildriver you egg faced bum licker, COULDN'T CARE LESS!

What you the grammar police now for metalreviews.com