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haha, Restless And Wild is a classic with a capital C
Metal Heart's classic status may be dubious, but Restless And Wild?
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It'd be nice if he at least formulated an argument instead of making snide one sentence remarks that don't back his opinion. Just sayin'.

I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
It'd be nice if he at least formulated an argument instead of making snide one sentence remarks that don't back his opinion. Just sayin'.

I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.

Oh, ok. Rob Halford could never sing, ever. I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those Priest albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.


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I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.


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I didn't know I was a young kid! :D


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Radagast wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
It'd be nice if he at least formulated an argument instead of making snide one sentence remarks that don't back his opinion. Just sayin'.

I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.

Oh, ok. Rob Halford could never sing, ever. I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those Priest albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.

Uh, yeah, nice try but that's not even the same. One is opinion (yours), the other is fact (mine).

Again, three great albums, but only "Balls to the Wall" is a classic.


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I didn't know I was a young kid! :D

Dumb as one, so you're lumped in by default. :)


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Satan's Anus wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
It'd be nice if he at least formulated an argument instead of making snide one sentence remarks that don't back his opinion. Just sayin'.

I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.

Oh, ok. Rob Halford could never sing, ever. I don't need to back my opinion. That's the way it's been since those Priest albums were released. But young kids on the Internet love to change fact, insisting that what once was has never been. It's ludicrous.

Uh, yeah, nice try but that's not even the same. One is opinion (yours), the other is fact (mine).

Again, three great albums, but only "Balls to the Wall" is a classic.


Restless & Wild is a fucking classic. And I'm not a child. But the fucking impact of this album in the metal scene (at least in Europe) is a fact. It's a great abum that made a great impact, so is a fucking classic.

And I'm not a kid, I was a kid then when it happened.

And that's a fact.


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Most people have no idea who Accept are, but those same people know "Balls to the Wall," a song from the only album that made any sort of mainstream or lasting impression outside of metal.


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What is actually a classic? What defines one? Is it the impact or the greatness? How influential? Or groundbreaking? Original? album sales?

Well, if these are the cases, then Restless Balls are both classics. :D


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Most people have no idea who Accept are, but those same people know "Balls to the Wall," a song from the only album that made any sort of mainstream or lasting impression outside of metal.


Here in Europe (well, in Spain at least) happens the same with Fast as a shark, Princess of the dawn or Metal heart (the song). You're assuming only the impact in american scene, not the global one.


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Back up your opinion, Ken, or no-one will take you seriously. Your opinion a fact? Bullshit. What do you even know of the impact it had in Europe?


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Back up your opinion, Ken, or no-one will take you seriously. Your opinion a fact? Bullshit. What do you even know of the impact it had in Europe?


because he is older then you!


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Back up your opinion, Ken, or no-one will take you seriously. Your opinion a fact? Bullshit. What do you even know of the impact it had in Europe?


because he is older then you!


But I'm older than him... That makes my opinion a fact.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
Lucifer's Son wrote:
I didn't know I was a young kid! :D

Dumb as one, so you're lumped in by default. :)

And, still, I know my Accept classics better than you do.
Ho but... Maybe that's because I lived these times in EUROPE, where we cared about Metal when the US were masturbating about Ratt, Poison, Cinderella and Motley Crue... :rolleyes:


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Lucifer's Son wrote:
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I didn't know I was a young kid! :D

Dumb as one, so you're lumped in by default. :)

And, still, I know my Accept classics better than you do.
Ho but... Maybe that's because I lived these times in EUROPE, where we cared about Metal when the US were masturbating about Ratt, Poison, Cinderella and Motley Crue... :rolleyes:

All wrong about the States.
We caught it perhaps a year later but, I had Restless and Wild by late 83 / early 84. Had Killers in 82.
Not all of us here in the States were poseurs, in fact most of the dudes I hung out with were bona-fide.
Had Welcome To Hell by then too.
You had to go to the small privately owned record stores, is all.
But, back to the point: anybody that claims Restless is not a classic has their head up their ass.


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Back up your opinion, Ken, or no-one will take you seriously. Your opinion a fact? Bullshit. What do you even know of the impact it had in Europe?


because he is older then you!

It's funny, really, because none of you have backed up your opinion with anything more convincing. I say it's not a classic, you say it is. But I have to elaborate and convince you? Pffft! Fuck that. You convince me.

Tell me, guys. What album of Accept's can you find at most record stores at any given time?

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Hmmm...yeah. Shocking.


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Record sales / mainstream popularity has little to do with whether a METAL album is or isn't a classic.
I am more likely to see, say Korn - Follow The Leader, than Accept's Balls to the Wall in your average CD store; are you saying that any release by Korn is more of a classic than BTTW?
Same logic, after all.


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Tell me, guys. What album of Accept's can you find at most record stores at any given time?


Come on dude. V is right, Most popular =/= classic. Just because you can't find an album on the shelves at Best Buy doesn't mean its not a classic in the metal realm. The Best Buy near me doesn't have Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny on the shelves, nor does the FYE, Target, etc. Does that mean its not a classic?


You're better than that silly criteria you just made.


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Satan's Anus wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
Back up your opinion, Ken, or no-one will take you seriously. Your opinion a fact? Bullshit. What do you even know of the impact it had in Europe?


because he is older then you!

It's funny, really, because none of you have backed up your opinion with anything more convincing. I say it's not a classic, you say it is. But I have to elaborate and convince you? Pffft! Fuck that. You convince me.


You're the loner running against the stream here and claiming that everyone else but you is wrong.

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I actually found Metal Heart before I found Balls to the Wall


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