Metal Reviews

Yeah, "Ultra Beatdown" is absolutely ridiculous.

Shocking. Sounds like power metal.

Dude, just end it. Dragonforce is blatantly regurgitating their sound. Not everyone is happy with this. It has nothing to do with their fucking popularity. Hell, they can be the most popular band on earth, and if they evolved, I reckon it would be something great. At least... if the evolution was a step in the right direction.

A new album that sounds great , I have 2 of there albums and I could not listen to either of those from start to finish as i found its was way too much of " Same Same " through the whole CD and after a while it sounded like one large song with intervals in between.

I saw them in '06 and although there were lots of women there that where very easy on the eye , which is half the fun of going to a metal concert ( the women in there short leather skirts) , musically very good but as per there album to much "Same same "and its sounded like one very long song ...

If they evolved, the same people now asking for evolution would complain. The fact is that very few bands change. The other fact is that when bands become popular with the mainstream, droves of idiots make nonsensical demands—demands that they do not make toward other bands—simply because they need a reason to justify their close-minded foolishness. It's been happening for decades.

People want to feel like they're part of something smaller and more intimate than a mainstream band offers. Especially music fans who don't want to deal with Hot Topic morons doing the meathead bop at concerts, or wearing metal band tee shirts to Insane Clown Posse concerts and throwing up urban whiteboy gang signs. People, for some reason, associate too many unimportant things to themselves and the bands they listen to. Fact.

Disagree all you want, but it's the simple truth. There are classic fucking rock and metal bands out there, bands that many of you drool over, that have never altered their sound or evolved—AC/DC, Motorhead, Obituary, two billion death and black metal bands. Shit, Kerry King has been playing the same solo for 30 fucking years!

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooow! Pffft!

And while many people out there demand Dragonforce change and evolve, those same people will shit all over the upcoming Judas Priest album for doing just that.

it's not that Dragonforce don't evolve, it's that their songs are nearly all exactly the same... and sure it's a great song but hearing the same thing over and over again gets old.

Dragonforce sucks. Formulaic sht played super-fast won't make it any less formulaic or shit.

Agreed pretty much, but I'm going pedantically to point out that the horrific atmospherics on Obituary's first two albums were dropped afterwards. I'll give the new Dragonforce a listen, but I still haven't listened to the two I've got all the way through...

Great to see you two discussing stuff instead of headslapping, by the way. My boys...

Its not so much that they haven't evolved but that every single song on every single album is the exact same thing. Ie, in the main, the exact same style of riffs, exact same song structure, exact same type of solos, exact same tempo, with very similar vocal melodies (as that hilarious video shows) Its been a problem of theirs since Valley of the Damned; Dragonforce have always been a fun band to listen to, and like I said, I'm sure there'll be a few songs on here that'll be fun to listen to, but can anyone really listen to a Dragonforce album straight through without getting bored?

Yes, yes, that's quite wonderful, but I've made it quite clear that I don't care about a band's popularity. You're just using a thread to blindly discharge your 'OH NBODY LUV THIS BAND CUZ THEYS POPULAR NAO" bullshit, while completely ignoring that some people might not care. Like me, for example. Most are disgusted that it will be the exact same album as 'Inhuman Rampage' and 'Sonic Firestorm'. Sure, a few bands repeat themselves over and over again, and sure, Judas Priest might get a spanking from those who are the antithesis to this argument, but I could care less. I don't listen to bands who repeat themselves, and that's why I'm expressing THE FURY towards Dragonforce.

Oh, and one last thing; some bands repeat themselves because they're too inept to play anything more complex. Or they're thrash bands, and they're too stubborn to play anything different, because they know they'll lose that little collection of equally stubborn thrashers. Okay, maybe that wasn't fair to single out a genre, as all genres have their share of conservative douches, but you catch my drift.

I don't know if Dragonforce is the former or the latter -- might be neither. Might be the fear of change. After all, Dragonforce got popular by being lightning-fast and ultra-stupid.

There is a difference between evolving and variation you know... Dragonforce sucks at the latter.

I agree that Dragonforce is repetitive and would benefit from a change, but I definitely agree with Ken in that if Dragonforce weren't so popular, they wouldn't be getting so much shit. How many power metal bands are there that put out the same sounding stuff for years? Hundreds, and none of them get nearly as much crap as Dragonforce are getting in this thread alone.

Oh for fuck's sakes. Seriously. Dragonforce could be one of the most obscure acts out there and they'd still get kicked around.

Ken does brings up a good point, indeed, but it's being applied in the wrong thread.

That's one of the very, very worst album titles I've ever seen.

However, I'll have to agree with Ken here. The amount of shit thrown at this band is absolutely ridiculous, and rarely justified. Sure they haven't evolved, and their songs tend to sound samey, but the same can be said about many classic bands. Not to mention that they have only released 3 albums. I'm sure everyone in here can mention a crapload of bands that has written 3 consecutive albums without changing their sound.

The most ridiculous thing I've heard though, is the accusation that they take themselves seriously! I mean, have you seen their videos? They have even said during live shows that it doesn't matter which song they play since they all sound the same! Speaking of their live shows, I've also heard many people say that they can't pull off their own stuff live, which isn't true either. When I saw them supporting Edguy, Li and Totman were pretty much spot on. The only one who turned in a less than stellar performance was ZP. When they fuck up during live shows it's usually because they're drunk, which is fucking stupid but doesn't lend much credibility to the "they take themselves seriously" argument.

As for the album, I'm looking forward to it. I enjoyed "Inhuman Rampage" quite a lot. Sure it's difficult to sit through it from start to finnish, but it's gold in small doses.

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The only one who turned in a less than stellar performance was ZP. When they fuck up during live shows it's usually because they're drunk, which is fucking stupid but doesn't lend much credibility to the "they take themselves seriously" argument.



I have seen them twice and I kid you not , what took the roadies the longest to set up was all the beer's they were loading on to their Mic stands. I counted at least a 4 beers being loaded onto each stand, that being said: Fuck could these boys play"

Isaw them live... And it is probably the worst fucking live show i have ever seen. One of the guitars stayed of tune during the whole show. The playing was extremely sloppy, except the drummer. He was the only one who kept the pace. Totman must be one of the shittiest guitarists alive.

I'll probably listen to the first two songs and then get bored. But I would like to see them live..

When you go see a Dragonforce show, you're kind of tossing the dice: Either they'll be slightly drunk and play everything really well, or they'll be very drunk and play quite half assedly. While this isn't exactly good (because for every 30 dollars that each fan pays, they deserve to see the best show the band can put on), they can play their shit live and they're above all supposed to be a fun band, and they always deliver on that.

I just think Dragonforce needs to quit masturbating they're guitars and write an actual song.

Dragonforce have got less fun each time I've seen them live. Their Sweden Rock performance in 2006 was a complete joke. Out of time, missing cues, and Totman fucked up nearly every solo he played as he staggered about the stage, pissed off his face at 3 in the afternoon. Awful.

I'm not too bothered about this album. I haven't listened to the 3rd one in a long time. It was just a repetition too far (with added annoying keyboard sounds).

And the title sucks something bad, but I'm sure it won't affect the music one jot.