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 Post subject: In Flames - Lunar Strain / Subterranean (#2886)
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:53 am 
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In Flames - Lunar Strain / Subterranean
Gothenburg Melodic Death Metal
Quoted: 82 & 92 / 100


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:36 pm 
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Lunar Strain (Along with DT's Skydancer and maybe Sentenced North from Here) is just an incrediable album when Sweedish Melodic Death Metal still meant "Melodic" "Death" and most certainly Heavy Metal. It makes me shake my head to listen to this and then think of STYE as being from the same band. This is what it is all about. A must own album.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:53 pm 
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Awesome. I've had them on my computer for awhile but just recently picked up the re-release versions about a month or so back when I discovered them much to my surprise.

Some of my favorite moments lie in the relative oddness of Lunar Strain, the metalized traditional folk and the female vocals are great additions to an impressive album, even if DT still has my metal heart for best female vocals. Both solid albums, but Subterranean never stood out to me as much as Lunar Strain. Though I think I'll try to get into it a little more after this review.


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A pair of incredibly average albums in my view.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:14 pm 
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A pair of incredibly average albums in my view.


yeah, i have clayman, and the only song i really like off of it is pinball map


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:09 pm 
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WEll these are some of In Flames better albums.


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 Post subject: Perfect
PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:21 pm 
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thank god someone reviewed these albusm there both amazign, i got one question wtf! isnt there a JESTER RACE review...possibly one of the greatest albums of all time? we need one and list it as a classic


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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DanielSan wrote:
thank god someone reviewed these albusm there both amazign, i got one question wtf! isnt there a JESTER RACE review...possibly one of the greatest albums of all time? we need one and list it as a classic


Sorry but you're wrong, nothing In Flames ever did would qualify as greatest of all time. But its your opinon and you're entitled to it....I just think you're wrong.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:03 pm 
Indeed. Most of you say: "Oh yeah wow, In Flames, great band, started to suck around Reroute, though!". Yet, in my opinion, they always did.


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Always has been overrated indeed, too much pop!!! Nice for a first and second listen but it gets boring really fast...


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A good album, but some of the songs just aren't that memorable.


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Dudeguy wrote:
lizardtail wrote:
A pair of incredibly average albums in my view.


yeah, i have clayman, and the only song i really like off of it is pinball map


Did you even read the review. Lunar Strain sounds nothing like Clayman so your point is moot. If you like Skydancer, North from here, early Amorphis, Somberlien and things like that you will love Lunar Strain.


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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Holy_Terror wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
thank god someone reviewed these albusm there both amazign, i got one question wtf! isnt there a JESTER RACE review...possibly one of the greatest albums of all time? we need one and list it as a classic


Sorry but you're wrong, nothing In Flames ever did would qualify as greatest of all time. But its your opinon and you're entitled to it....I just think you're wrong.


Yeah because bands like Dark Angel, Forbidden, Vio-lance and Holy Terror just set the bar so high In Flames could never compete......right? But that is your opinion so you are entitled to it, you are just wrong.

In Flames and others in the early/mid 90's brough Metal back to what it should be. It got perverted with thrash (excepting Metallica and some others) and the mixing of hardcore and faded of into oblivion after Rust in Peace like it should have with that pointless, major label "thrash" explosiong of 2nd rate bands in the late 80's, thank god people in Europe didn't care and decided to bring it back to what it should be, the greatest form of music on the planet.


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 Post subject: My two cents
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:11 pm 
I have to agree with the notion that In Flames was very cool up until Reroute. Actually you could hear it sliding that way on Clayman. Jester Race is still my favorite of theirs. Shame both they and Soilwork went the way of the wooly mammoth.


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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leee wrote:
Holy_Terror wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
thank god someone reviewed these albusm there both amazign, i got one question wtf! isnt there a JESTER RACE review...possibly one of the greatest albums of all time? we need one and list it as a classic


Sorry but you're wrong, nothing In Flames ever did would qualify as greatest of all time. But its your opinon and you're entitled to it....I just think you're wrong.


Yeah because bands like Dark Angel, Forbidden, Vio-lance and Holy Terror just set the bar so high In Flames could never compete......right? But that is your opinion so you are entitled to it, you are just wrong.

In Flames and others in the early/mid 90's brough Metal back to what it should be. It got perverted with thrash (excepting Metallica and some others) and the mixing of hardcore and faded of into oblivion after Rust in Peace like it should have with that pointless, major label "thrash" explosiong of 2nd rate bands in the late 80's, thank god people in Europe didn't care and decided to bring it back to what it should be, the greatest form of music on the planet.


If you were a horse, you'd be shot. How is Metallica different from thousands of other thrash bands, except that they're famous? How did thrash "pervert" metal? How was Europe not part of the thrash metal movement in the first place? What the fuck are you rambling on about?


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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Brahm_K wrote:
How is Metallica different from thousands of other thrash bands, except that they're famous?


Well, they're watered-down, not as intense, and much easier to digest than better thrash bands. I suppose that counts.


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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Dead Machine wrote:
Brahm_K wrote:
How is Metallica different from thousands of other thrash bands, except that they're famous?


Well, they're watered-down, not as intense, and much easier to digest than better thrash bands. I suppose that counts.


To each his own. Kreator and Sodom of course are ok. I meant the Major label bullshit explosion after the big 4 which you all love so much. Basically the bands I mentioned. Get over the fact that every one has to worship thrash and that some people can see if for the tired worn out genre by 88 that it was.


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 Post subject: Re: Perfect
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leee wrote:
To each his own. Kreator and Sodom of course are ok. I meant the Major label bullshit explosion after the big 4 which you all love so much. Basically the bands I mentioned. Get over the fact that every one has to worship thrash and that some people can see if for the tired worn out genre by 88 that it was.


Um, all of Dark Angels albums are great besides possibly Leave Scars. Vio-Lence were the same, except that their third album, Nothing to Gain was good, just not as good as the previous two. Holy Terror only ever released two albums, and as such, never managed to fuck up.

Forbidden is not the last 'sacred cow' of historical thrash revisionists, that would be varying from Celtic Frost to S.O.D to Overkill to Kreator to Sodom, et cetera. Many more, but there's no agreed-upon fourth sacred cow of thrash.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:55 am 
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Wow, Dead Machine, you are a metal king.

Yeah sorry Lee, I dont think you swedish death metal poodle monkeying will get much sympathy from Brahm, Dead Machine, or myself. Yours is a 'newer' school of metal and in my opinino it is bands like In Flames that have totally crapped on metal and gone commercial with it. True many thrash bands popped up on the scene to make a buck or two, but those are the bands that no one remembers. Myself being a thrash enthusiast have heard a lot of those bands, and I have to say, at least they were heavy....unlike many of these screamo hardcore nu-swedish metal bands that keep cropping up. So please, before you start saying thrash ruined metal....take a second or two to realize how stupid what you're saying is....and shut up.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:47 pm 
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Holy_Terror wrote:
Wow, Dead Machine, you are a metal king.

Yeah sorry Lee, I dont think you swedish death metal poodle monkeying will get much sympathy from Brahm, Dead Machine, or myself. Yours is a 'newer' school of metal and in my opinino it is bands like In Flames that have totally crapped on metal and gone commercial with it. True many thrash bands popped up on the scene to make a buck or two, but those are the bands that no one remembers. Myself being a thrash enthusiast have heard a lot of those bands, and I have to say, at least they were heavy....unlike many of these screamo hardcore nu-swedish metal bands that keep cropping up. So please, before you start saying thrash ruined metal....take a second or two to realize how stupid what you're saying is....and shut up.


Because you guys are kids and it is "new" to you or you just never grew up. Actually the whole thrash explosion made me give up on metal, I just fucking hated it outside of Metallica, Slayer, Sacred Reich, and the bands like Sodom, Kreator and Destruction who did something different with it. Bands like Mercyful Fate, Bathory, Celtic Frost, Warlord, Cirith Ungol, and others just destroyed bands like Dark Angle and the god awful Forbidden and Vio-lence. So when they ended and all there was, was thrash shit I gave it up, but then low behold, bands like In Flames, Dissection, Dark Tranquility, At The Gates, Entombed, Carcass and a shit load from Norway found out what Metal was all about again and took it too new levels and made it the best music in the world again. Sorry, but in my mind, all of those major label thrash bands and even the euro come lately ones like Exhorder and some others were just as bad as MTV hair bands to me. Like you said is my opinion so you don't have to agree, but I will be damned if I will buy into this internet raised 23 year olds that are discovering that thrash is the greatest form of metal revisionist history without saying my piece, especially since I was there for it. If you are over the age of 30 then you are exclued from this rant.


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