dead1 wrote:
As for being close minded:
If I want to listen to Dean Martin album, I put on a Dean Martin album. (Man has the best voice ever)
If I want to listen to Queens of the Stone Age, I put on a Queens of the Stone Age album.
If I want to listen to Death Metal album, I put on a Death Metal album.
I do not want to pick up a CD from a Death Metal band and get badly played QOTSA or Dean Martin (like Devin Townsend or Dee Schneider trying to do Frank Sinatra - really sounds crap).
By the same token I do not want to pick up a QOTSA album and get badly played Death Metal. Or pick up a Living End rockabilly punk album and get badly played Thrash Metal.
The "open minded" guys always amaze me - they prefer Metal bands to not play Metal. If you don't like Metal, don't fucking listen to it. Simple.
So in other words you like music to be neatly packaged into bite-sized pieces... Fuck you, surprise!
Stefan was a little bit harsh... he is like the paramilitary wing of the Open Minded Brigade, whereas me and Goat are perhaps the parliamentary moderates.
I don't think people who don't like this album are idiots- I don't really like it myself and agree almost entirely with the four points made in the first half of dead1's post. But I'll tell you who I do think are idiots: people who say things like this:
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But don't tell Metalheads who like Metal that they're close minded idiots for not liking other stuff or for not liking supposed progression (I call it selling out or losing the plot).
For you 'progression' and 'selling out/losing the plot' are synonymous... Yes, I must confess, to me this seems like the viewpoint of an idiot.
They are not that different in the current circumstance as you would presume, though your point is granted that Morbid Angel are not selling out. My assessment of this album being somewhat similar to Cryptopsy's experimental tendencies on their latest pile of shit, both bands experimented with their respective tendencies and both having at least one member introducing elements of a concurrent project into the corpus of the main band. Hmm, let's see it didn't work for Cryptopsy when during the songwriting process when Flo and Mccgathy introduced deathcore elements, and it obviously floundered miserably when Trey introduced his industrial elements into the bloodstream of Morbid Angel. This being a conscious decision on his part is far from "losing the plot", however, it does make for completely botching the album. As for the claim that being "open-minded" indicates tolerating this dogshit, I am inclined to disagree strongly.