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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:39 pm 
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Oh man, I can't believe I missed this post. Now I have the chance to tell you all that you're gay and that my musical tastes are far superior to all of yours. Coincidentally I just got the unreleased Anvil Chorus album in the mail and am proceeding to be truer...and culter(?) than all of you. :D Good day to you all.


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I don't download, but I do get people to send me songs off albums I'm considering buying. Example-I have 5 of the new Deicide songs thanks to the crazy Welshman Radagast and I'm buying it. I do listen to albums all the time over and over again when they kick ass, maybe if not initially. When I first got Pleasure to Kill the production made it hard for me to listen to and now it's one of my all time favourite albums. My two cents.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:24 pm 
Downloading isn't really the issue. The issue is those that don't buy, the blatant disregard for what downloading does in the grand scheme of things. We're not talking about one person, we're talking about the collective effect of everyone downloading and not buying. I download. That's not the issue. Just look at how many people in this thread alone have said things like, "I'm not paying $15 for a CD! Screw that!" Well, what gives you the right to then take it? I didn't like paying like $40K for my truck, but I didn't then go and steal it.

There's this ridiculous sense of ownership that fans have when it comes to music. There are no immediate consequences with downloading, so too many "fans" feel that they have a right to this music. Of course, the long term effect is simply going to make things worse. But no one thinks long term, they think about now.


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it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

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it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.


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Eyesore wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.


oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
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it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.


oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

It's more likely to be the effect of people not downloading but buying than the result of downloading.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
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it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.


oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.

oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

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Because bands need hits in order to stay halfway afloat! When record sales plummet because people download, bands need to conform in order to make a living and stay on that label. Have you heard of Lunatica? Do you think it's normal that their first single for their new album was written by the Swedish songwriting team of Falk and Thott who have written songs for Britney Spears, Westlife and Lindsay Lohan?


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Eyesore wrote:
noodles wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.

oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

+1

Because bands need hits in order to stay halfway afloat! When record sales plummet because people download, bands need to conform in order to make a living and stay on that label. Have you heard of Lunatica? Do you think it's normal that their first single for their new album was written by the Swedish songwriting team of Falk and Thott who have written songs for Britney Spears, Westlife and Lindsay Lohan?

How about bands that were in for the money wouldn't make it anyways?


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Misha wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
noodles wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
it's a common human fallacy to not think about the long term effect. I wouldn't ge too upset. I mean, would Gavrilo Princip still have shot the arch-duke if he'd known what consequences it would have on jews 30 years later?

When all your favorite bands are having songs written by other people who have written songs for NSync, maybe then you'll understand.

oh... but how would that be an effect? i don't see it...

+1

Because bands need hits in order to stay halfway afloat! When record sales plummet because people download, bands need to conform in order to make a living and stay on that label. Have you heard of Lunatica? Do you think it's normal that their first single for their new album was written by the Swedish songwriting team of Falk and Thott who have written songs for Britney Spears, Westlife and Lindsay Lohan?

How about bands that were in for the money wouldn't make it anyways?

yeah, i think as music gets less profitable and the stuff thats used to record music gets cheaper you'll just have bands paying for recording stuff and doing it themselves


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Like alot of people here, I download alot, but the very second I see the album I like in a store I grab it. And sometime next week I will be able to also purchase albums online and I predict my album collection will sky rocket, just on HMV alone in 15 months I went from 12 albums to over 100. The majority costing 24.99 plus 15% tax, so kiss my ass anyone (iSORE) who dares call me spoiled. Kidding.


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There's no doubt that metalheads are just as self-righteous about their listening habits as are, say, Classical or Jazz-onlies. I listen to everything from Grindcore to Gangster rap, and although I can see the argument coming a mile off, I still say that makes me feel better than if I just listened to black metal exclusively.

As for the downloading thing, it's absolutely right - I download maybe an album every two weeks, and am already at the point where I find myself with no time to listen to it. What's the point, when I get more pleasure from an actual CD?


Exactly, you have nothing invested in the music when its only a click away. When youve sought it out in a shop or online, and paid for it, getting the CD (or LP) in your hands is satisfying.

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bands who decide to play a certain style of music that is unpopular will keep on doing that, because they're not in it for the money.

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bands who decide to play a certain style of music that is unpopular will keep on doing that, because they're not in it for the money.


If thats the case downloading is ok....... and so is sharing demos that arent really made for commercial purposes (ie, underground bm stuff).

But for example, elvenking is a band i would always pay for, because they may actualy need the money.


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bands who decide to play a certain style of music that is unpopular will keep on doing that, because they're not in it for the money.

no man, Orthrelm are totally in it for the money.


btw i think you should support bands like that and download bands who are in it for the money :)


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bands who decide to play a certain style of music that is unpopular will keep on doing that, because they're not in it for the money.

no man, Orthrelm are totally in it for the money.


btw i think you should support bands like that and download bands who are in it for the money :)



i buy as much as i can, but i can't buy everything! first of all, i've got a very limited income, being only 15, secondly, i can hardly find anything here.

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About only liking a specific genre of music:

Why I don't like many music genres:

For example: the latest "mainstream" bands are all stuck in the first half of the '90s. Their image, sound and simplistic forms of arranged sound. Music that is completely focused on one idea is not to my liking. That is my perspective. Why you ask? Music is a presentation of reality: emotions, colours, etc. Reality is complex, I can't feel complexity when I'm listening to a band that is simplistic. Music that is carefully crafted, genious arrangements is more my cup of tea. This is where my rock music (incl. metal) comes into play. I feel instantly if a band meets my high expectations. I don't think this is completely "subjective".

I don't listen to most mainstream bands because I don't like the idea behind it. And I'm pretty sure that I don't like the way things are going now.

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Very good editorial. Have to agree with one of the early posts by 6k something. I think it's a phase. You get into metal and start disrespecting others tastes in music. I have been that kind of a dick too. But, with time I changed my way of thinking. I do listen to other types of music, but you won't find anything apart from rock/metal in my collection. The other types of music like pop, country etc also have some songs which I like, but really don't feel the need to possess an album of that genre nor do I download or record those songs. When I come across those songs, I listen to them and that's it. But let's not forget that even people who listen to other genres of music may have this habit of dissing metal. So, I dont think this behaviour is restricted only to people who listen to metal.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:02 am 
The hip hop community is far more elitist than metalheads could ever be! You ever know a black guy that was into metal? They're ridiculed by other black people to no end. Metalheads don't even come close to that sort of ignorance.


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