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Best. Power. Metal. Album. Ever.

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Kamelot really are an incredible band! Roy Khan has an AMAZING voice! i love the vocals since he joined the band.

anyways, i didn't like this album much... not a bad album, of course, but i prefer Karma and Epica. i was disappointed by them slowing down, even if they are a bit heavier now.

my favourite songs are Forever, WoD, 4th legacy (you're right WiC, they should make a few more like that one), Elizabeth III, lost and damned, the shadow of uther, the mourning after (it's a slower one but in this case it works really well!)... they have too many good songs to mention!

the album with the coolest songs is Karma imo (WoD - Forever - Elizabeth III), but the album with the most "generally kick ass" songs is Epica.

if i was introducing someone to metal i'd definitely mention this band. also for some reason i get the feeling girls would really like Khan's voice.

great, great, great band. i really hope they can make it big.

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Best. Power. Metal. Album. Ever.

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I agree it's my favorite album of all time now!!!!!!!


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if i was introducing someone to metal i'd definitely mention this band. also for some reason i get the feeling girls would really like Khan's voice.

great, great, great band. i really hope they can make it big.


What I like about this band is that they set themselves apart from other power metal bands out today.They do their own thing in fact not many if any bands sound like Kamelot they got their own sound and style and Khan is one amazing vocalist.


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also as soft our happy-sounding as they are sometimes, they never sound corny or anything.

i'd love it if they came here again... but then again most bands seem to prefer the Hard Club now, and it's like 300km away :(

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My album of the year.


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Ya, so far its only second to Angel of Retribution for me, but hopefully the new Heathen (and Dark Angel) will change that. Too bad Rinehart couldn't recover from his injury...


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What I like about this band is that they set themselves apart from other power metal bands out today.They do their own thing in fact not many if any bands sound like Kamelot they got their own sound and style and Khan is one amazing vocalist.

Ever since The Fourth Legacy have they been on a tier above the great majority of powermetal bands (and metalbands for that matter) out there. Now they are on about the same level as Blind Guardian. IMO anyway.
It's partially due to Khan's vocals and partially their professional sound. The only depressing part about The Black Halo in my opinion is that we will have to wait so long for their next offering.


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I just bought "Karma," and that album blows "The Black Halo" into the sky IMO.




"The Fourth Legacy" is better than "The Black Halo" as well IMO.





There is no way Kamelot is even close to Blind Guardian.


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There is no way Kamelot is even close to Blind Guardian.


Yeah, Kamelot are way better. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Hansi and acoustics alone is far superior to Kamelot
His vocals keep the band sounding metal.
Rather than an AOR vocalist doing metal music


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MetalStorm wrote:
noodles wrote:
Best. Power. Metal. Album. Ever.

100/100


I agree it's my favorite album of all time now!!!!!!!



Ok junior,you seem a bit overenthusiastic!How old are you?


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MetalStorm wrote:
noodles wrote:
Best. Power. Metal. Album. Ever.

100/100


I agree it's my favorite album of all time now!!!!!!!



Ok junior,you seem a bit overenthusiastic!How old are you?


Older then you son :D


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MetalStorm wrote:
noodles wrote:
Best. Power. Metal. Album. Ever.

100/100


I agree it's my favorite album of all time now!!!!!!!


Hey, I´m sure you´re one of those lucky guys that are able to read my signature!


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metalNESS wrote:
There is no way Kamelot is even close to Blind Guardian.


Yeah, Kamelot are way better. :lol: :lol: :lol:
exactly :lol:


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This album took me a while to get into, and for a while I was rating it late 70s to early 80s... But then one day, I just got it, and now I can't stop listening. Incredible album, and definitely deserves a score in the 90s.


I was JUST about to give it a 75.. methinks I'll withold judgement until a later date.


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A step up even from Epica, kamelot have released one of the best power metal albums I've ever heard.


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Alright, time for my input. I come from a rather new perspective to metal. Only been listening to it for about 2 years now. My bands are somewhat diverse (Sonata Arctica, Blind Guardian, Angra, Demons & Wizards, Stratovarius, Dragonforce, Dragonland, Apocalyptica, to mention a few). The first group of metal songs I really enjoyed were Kamelot's Center of the Universe, Descent of the Archangel, Lunar Sanctum, and The Fourth Legacy, all which are still some of the better songs. Really, Kamelot seems by far the most original group I've heard in my life. They have a certain elegance through the hard driving riffs, and the fact that they don't have to result to "unclean words" is a testament to their lyric writing, using words that actually belong, instead of syllable fillers like fuck. They are one of the only bands that I can say have every single little nuance in their music possible without seeming gaudy (if you've heard Rhapsody, you know what I mean...). Everybody in Kamelot is of the highest quality. Grillo and Barry setting an amazing rythmn section. Youngblood, although highly ranked, is still underrated. Not only does he rip solos to shreads, but he can be subtle enough to slip behind Khan's amazing voice (something which even the mastery of people like Herman Li of Dragonforce have trouble doing). And, well, I praise Khan the highest. Maybe its because I'm a singer myself. Khan's ability to control his power, tone, and purity are truly a testament to how versitle he is.

Since hearing them, I now have collected almost all their Khan-era music. I don't know how they do it, but every time they get better and better. In my mind, when I heard Karma for the first time, I ranked it 100. When Epica came out, well, lets just say to give it a just ranking, I had to lower my rank of Karma. And, well, a ranking system doesn't do justice to Black Halo. I could go on to say how each "killer song" is great, but I don't think you want me to talk about every song. At one point or another, I was obsessed with each song from BH. It may take a good amount of spins, but you'll get hooked. A few things i'd like to say though.

If you really listen to Memento Mori, its really sorta partitioned into 3 parts, so I really can't see how it drags on and gets boring when its evolving so much. Would it help if each part had a specific title of its own?

One thing that makes the album great is that it is a concept album. It's a story through the whole thing. Stories should flow. Thus exists interludes. You can't judge this album song by song; it's not meant to be heard that way!

How is it not fast? songs like When the Lights Are Down and Nothing Ever Dies, although having some slowed parts, beat along at a blinding pace.

Sonata's Recogning Night had plenty of killers (Wildfire, Misplaced, THe Boy Who..., Ain't Your Fairytale), but doesn't hold a candle to Kam. I found White Pearl, Black Ocean to grind that disc to a halt, and drag it. Angra can't match the majestic feel subtly behind Kam's work. Rarely can Blind Guardian even.


Sorry for the long post; i guess I'm very oppinionated. Just that Kamelot, lyrically, musically, and theatrically, are a step above every other band I've heard. And they somehow get better every time. I live in fear of their next release, for either it will have to be a let down, or my head will explode.


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Bleys Phoenixfyre wrote:
Alright, time for my input. I come from a rather new perspective to metal. Only been listening to it for about 2 years now. My bands are somewhat diverse (Sonata Arctica, Blind Guardian, Angra, Demons & Wizards, Stratovarius, Dragonforce, Dragonland, Apocalyptica, to mention a few). The first group of metal songs I really enjoyed were Kamelot's Center of the Universe, Descent of the Archangel, Lunar Sanctum, and The Fourth Legacy, all which are still some of the better songs. Really, Kamelot seems by far the most original group I've heard in my life. They have a certain elegance through the hard driving riffs, and the fact that they don't have to result to "unclean words" is a testament to their lyric writing, using words that actually belong, instead of syllable fillers like fuck. They are one of the only bands that I can say have every single little nuance in their music possible without seeming gaudy (if you've heard Rhapsody, you know what I mean...). Everybody in Kamelot is of the highest quality. Grillo and Barry setting an amazing rythmn section. Youngblood, although highly ranked, is still underrated. Not only does he rip solos to shreads, but he can be subtle enough to slip behind Khan's amazing voice (something which even the mastery of people like Herman Li of Dragonforce have trouble doing). And, well, I praise Khan the highest. Maybe its because I'm a singer myself. Khan's ability to control his power, tone, and purity are truly a testament to how versitle he is.

Since hearing them, I now have collected almost all their Khan-era music. I don't know how they do it, but every time they get better and better. In my mind, when I heard Karma for the first time, I ranked it 100. When Epica came out, well, lets just say to give it a just ranking, I had to lower my rank of Karma. And, well, a ranking system doesn't do justice to Black Halo. I could go on to say how each "killer song" is great, but I don't think you want me to talk about every song. At one point or another, I was obsessed with each song from BH. It may take a good amount of spins, but you'll get hooked. A few things i'd like to say though.

If you really listen to Memento Mori, its really sorta partitioned into 3 parts, so I really can't see how it drags on and gets boring when its evolving so much. Would it help if each part had a specific title of its own?

One thing that makes the album great is that it is a concept album. It's a story through the whole thing. Stories should flow. Thus exists interludes. You can't judge this album song by song; it's not meant to be heard that way!

How is it not fast? songs like When the Lights Are Down and Nothing Ever Dies, although having some slowed parts, beat along at a blinding pace.

Sonata's Recogning Night had plenty of killers (Wildfire, Misplaced, THe Boy Who..., Ain't Your Fairytale), but doesn't hold a candle to Kam. I found White Pearl, Black Ocean to grind that disc to a halt, and drag it. Angra can't match the majestic feel subtly behind Kam's work. Rarely can Blind Guardian even.


Sorry for the long post; i guess I'm very oppinionated. Just that Kamelot, lyrically, musically, and theatrically, are a step above every other band I've heard. And they somehow get better every time. I live in fear of their next release, for either it will have to be a let down, or my head will explode.


I think that if you were to take part in some of the discussions on this board, you will find Kamelot is not very original at all (I'm not saying The Black Halo is bad). You will also find that your list of top bands is not diverse, but rather generic. Don't take offense to this, b/c everybody has been in this state of mind before. Stick around and learn from some of the other people on this board. You will find music you didn't even know existed.


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Yes, NESS is right. But your attitude is not a bad thing. Quite the opposite, I often think back to the days before my expanding knowledge of Metal made me cynical. :cry:

Kamelot are one of the best bands in modern Power Metal though, no doubt, and The Black Halo was the best album of 2005 in my little opinion.

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They are one of the only bands that I can say have every single little nuance in their music possible without seeming gaudy (if you've heard Rhapsody, you know what I mean...)


This is a great point, though. Kamelot's music nowadays is so full without ever feeling bloated (unlike some parts of their first three albums, before Youngblood had really honed his songwriting.)


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