Slipkyes wrote:
One of the stupidest frases I have ever heard is "It sounds like real melodic death metal, not like the gothenburg sound" Please, what are you saying?! I haven´t hear this band but it´s not about that, how can you say that when Melodic Death Metal was motherfuckin born in Gothenburg Sweden?? the REAL melodic death metal is that of In Flames Dark Tranquility (some consider At the Gates) and such, it is the REAL because it is the FIRST understand that!
Cryptopsy?? Not melodic death metal AT ALL. It can be melodic sometimes, but that does not make it "melodic death metal", hell for that you could consider cannibal corpse to be melodic death metal just because it has guitar solos cause that´s what youre saying with cryptopsy! Phobophile has a piano intro, Cold hate has clean guitar intro, crown of horns is not and will never be melodic death, please dont try defending it any more, it could get dangerous
On Amon Amarth you make a bit more of a point, as in fact the band is "death metal" but with a lot of "melody" but that does not make them "melodic death metal" for MDM is not just three words, those three words put together hold a definition which has it´s history and it´s characteristics, and Amon amarth does not seem to fit most of these charachteristics, mainly all they have in common with Melodic Death Metal bands is the "Death metal" and the "melody" but as i said, its not just that. In case you don´t know how to define Melodic Death metal, I´m way too lazy to talk about that, just check wikipedia or something
P.S. If I´m not wrong you were mentioning swedish bands as in Dissection or Amon Amarth? I hope you know Cryptopsy is not swedish, don´t understand why it came into the conversation as an example as it is neither melodic death nor swedish
Btw, I think its pretty lame to steal your band name from a famous band´s song name (Cannibal Corpse - Staring Through the Eyes of the Dead) and the review sucks, it says nothing about the album, it sounds more like a black dahlia murder review in disguise
First off, you lay out alot of claims, some of which have merit, and some that are blatantly wrong.
Like the origins death metal, there is no one place where melodic death metal started. Like all musical forms, this genre is organic, and usually arrives based on the trends in sound at the time. Yes, you could say melodic death was born in Sweden, but 1993 also had Carcass and Sentenced practicing similar sounds in other countries (amongst other bands im sure), so to say that the REAL melodic death is purely Swedish in nature, is false.
Next, I made it a point to say earlier in this thread that Cryptopsy, while not classified as a melodic death band, DOES incorporate melodies into their music in several songs. All the examples I listed DO have melody in them, if you can't hear it, open up your ears more. Phobophile does have a piano intro, and if you listen carefully, you'll notice that the ENTIRE song is built on that piano intro (listen carefully to the rythym guitars). Also, I never said that Cryptopsy's melodies are derived strictly from their solos, but because their solos are VERY melodic in nature, this absolutely adds to the overall song structure. Oh, and Cold Hate, Warm Blood is absurdly melodic, again, listen closely, the entire underlining structure of the song is BASED on its melodies.
So please, let me know when this apparent "danger" kicks in.
Amon Amarth are not melodic death metal because they don't fit the "mold" of a melodic death metal band? Is that what you are attempting to tell me? That's ridiculous. If you want to call them viking metal, fine, I absolutely understand the arguements for that, and agree to a certain extent, but I also think that Amon Amarth is a stand out example of real melodic death metal.
Look, if you want to know what I am getting at by dividing the Gothenburg sound of today (which might be easier to classify as post-melodic death) with real melodic death metal, use these examples:
Sentenced - North From Here (MELODIC DEATH METAL)
In Flames - Reroute to Remain (GOTHENBURG/POST-MELODIC DEATH)
In Flames, Soilwork and Dark Tranquillity may have at one point played melodic death, butr no longer is that the case. Sepultura once played damn good thrash, that doesn't make them a thrash band now.
I am not attempting to discredit the Gothenburg melodic death movement of the 90's, as some amazing material came from there, but the sound that derived from it unfortunately originated from there too, so therefore, it is common to use the term Gothenburg in reference to the sound that In Flames produces now, whatever you want to call it.
