Metal Reviews

The digipack has two rather pointless radio edits nailed on the end, which sort of detracts from the closure of the album as a whole. The Japanese version has a bonus track called Epilogue that closes it more appropriately.

Could not agree more with the review. This record is a gem and their most mature album ever. Is it their best? I think in terms of pure 'enjoyability' it probably ties with Epica for me.

Strange that the review only mentions the songs up until "moonlight". To me, the best songs are towards the end (in fact, the last 4 songs are my favourites). The godly Memento Mori is not even mentioned... how come??

Oh and I can't see why some are claiming this album is boring because of "all the midtempo songs" because there are plenty of speedy tracks to enjoy (like "Nothing ever dies" with its nearly un-kamelot riffing and the fine closer "serenade" and of course "when the lights go down"). The faster as well as the slower songs have some really killer riffs, I really think it is their most original album concerning Youngbloods guitar work. The title track is a great example of this. Big fat intro riffing

The bonus tracks are a mistery to me: 2 radio edits? What's up with that?? Packaging is nice thought. Definately top10 for 2005.

To be fair, if you look back at their discography to the first album featuring Khan on vocals, Siege Perilous, they were much slower. Almost every song on that album is slow-midtempo, so this is really a return to form. Although most probably identifies the name Kamelot with the sound on The Fourth Legacy, that album doesn't represent the band's sound very well as a whole in my opinion.
So has using guitars in metal, but I don't see any reason for it to change just yet.

For some reason, when people review albums song-by-song they usually quit halfway through. Perhaps they lack the attentionspan to listen to the whole album. Anyway, I think the review was great, and I agree with the rating. Not quite as good as Epica, but damn close.

Nothing else than ... masterpiece.

I can't believe people prefer Karma ....
Unless U give one spin to this record.
I wasnt happy at all with TBH after the first spin, but now ....

However, as I always say, tastes are tastes and I f**ing like this album.

As far as I am happy with it, other tastes wont help my life at all.

Zen ..........

as theli mentions it i belive Khan first album with Kamelot is siege perilious and not fourth legacy like the reviewer wrote, anyways BH is a good album but i do prefer karma as the best kamelot album yet.

Yes , i agree with you

I can understand that some people may prefer Epica to the TBH but Karma ??!

There are 5 good songs on Karma imo (WOD , Forever , Karma , The Spell and Fall from grace) while the rest are pretty much fillers (still ok songs though) and ballads.

On the other hand , Epica and TBH are more consistent in terms of song writing quality.That's why i think they are both superior to Karma.

Kahn sang on Siege perlious but i don't think he was involved in the writing process. I may be wrong here but i'm pretty sure they already had the album written and he just did the vocals.

What a nice way to know a band! I didn't know them since now, when I got this album the band was a complete surprise for me. I gotta say: THIS ALBUM OWNS!!! Now I have to find their previous releases to know more about them!

Where I was that I didn't know them??? Kamelot rules!!

Karma had other good songs like Temples of Gold, which is one of my favorites off that record. The Black Halo is definately a good record that fits inbetween Karma and Epica in terms of style.
Epica is definately their best though followed by Karma and The Black Halo as a tie for second.

I think we can all just agree that Karma, Epica, and TBH just own. Which is better is just a matter of personal preference so there is no use making a big deal of which one is .001 better than the other one.

The Fourth Legacy is probably my favorite. I wish they would do more songs like the title track what a bomb that song is.

I purchased this CD after reading all the great reviews and seeing the MoM video online. I never bothered checking this band out until now, but what can I say this cd is phenomenal! I'll definitely have to check out their earlier works.

Being a Christian currently struggling with my faith, I can really relate to some of the songs, such as Abandoned.

He only wrote the lyrics for "Millennium" I think. A killer track. For the rest I think Siege is a pretty boring (and the production is awful)



Amen! The 4th Legacy (and Nights of Arabia) will probably remain my favourite Kamelot tracks for all time. Though the album overall is not nearly as strong as The Black Halo or Epica.. (I prefer it over Karma, however)

In the Interlude II the woman is singing in Italian! Cool album Btw need to relisten it some more times but i think i will give it a 81/100

You know, I really don't see what all the hooplah is about. I downloaded the two music videos off this new album from their webpage and it didn't impress me all that much. the music sounds GOOD on a technical and songwriting level, but it's nothing creative and I feel I've heard it a million times before: decent guitar riffs, predictable verses and good choruses that repeat too many times causing you to get bored of the songs rather quickly. The production value is great though so all instruments sound clean and crisp, but that doesn't make them memorable or repeatable songs.
I've downloaded a few of their other older songs off the site and the basic formula is still there (ex: "Nights of Arabia" SUCKS and "Center of the Universe" has a good bridge after the 2nd chorus but the song is waaayyy overrated). I don't own any of the albums but if any of you feel the formula I'm talking about let me know. I feel you're all being fooled by their pretty boy looks and flawless production. I can't see why this band has made it this far.

Yes Orion, no doubt i agree with what you said, i'm a big Kamelot fan, i put the Fourth Legacy in there, they have gotten better and better with each album, and The Black Halo is freaking awesome from top to bottom, these guys are on top of the game. Fourth legacy, Karma , Epica, Black Halo, come on theyr'e all good. I like to mention also that in this album you see some Conception influences, (Khan's previous band), i recommend listening to some of theyre music, is really mostly unknown but is amazing too. Can't wait to see them in concert and wow try to top this album next time, i have no doubt these guys can.

97/100 my rating

So all you've heard of them is a couple songs plus 2 music videos. Yet you act like you know what you are talking about? Now I'm going to make a little suggestion here. I personally think it's best to first - listen to the music :shock: second - listen to it some more cause it might take more than one listen to get it :shock: then give your opinion.

Don't have this one yet, but I have every other since Siege. I have to say that Karma is still the best though. It's filled with killer tracks, a perfect mix of speedy melodic songs, mid tempo heavier ones, and awesome ballads. And Elizabeth III: Fall from Grace may be their greatest song ever. Epica is very good, but the interludes get irritating and I miss the soaring glory of Karma and 4th Legacy.
Anyway, I don't think their 'pretty boy looks' are fooling anyone who is in the least musically competent. I don't even know what that means.
They may have followed a generally standard formula before, but Epica and what I have heard from Halo is far from formulatic. That's why Epica takes several in depth listens to get into fully unlike formulatic and simple to understand albums. I'm not bashing the more standard stuff from 4th Legacy and Karma since I've already said I prefer those.
Plus, Khan is one of the best vocalists in metal today, period. I'll be getting this very soon.

You must also remember that songs, when being cut down in length for musicvideos or radio-edits are made more repetitive and most of the time less interesting. Anything that isn't repeated in the song (guitar solos and such) is often the first thing to go.

One reason why I never buy singles, radio-edits. :roll:

The new Kamelot will probably end up being my favorite overall of their CDs.

I think the new Lanfear is the best power metal CD of the year so far though! :shock:

I actually just reviewed both... 8)