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This'll probably open a can of worms.

It will probably be another show with a bunch of people blaming metal music for awful things in the world, instead of realizing everything starts with BAD PARENTING.

Fuck this.

There's a huge controversy in montreal right now because yesterday some jackass came to my college and gunned 20 people. For now 1 is dead and 3 others are in really bad shape. The guy listened to metal.
Now every network want a metalhead to come defend your favorite music. I fucking hate when that happen.

it's bad that they want someone from "the other side of the fence"?

usually these kinds of programmes only have the critics talking about something they can't even begin to understand, so i think it's nice that they actually want to hear both sides of a question, for once.

unless the guy representing is a complete idiot, of course.

So far it's exactly what you would think its about. Slayer is death metal Mayhem is the most controversial band out there and we parents don't like it. They even touched on Burzum.

Glen Benton's cross is crooked!

Saw it when it aired in the UK:

-Thrash Death and Black Metal are not interchangable terms
-The drummer of the Beach Boys was friends with Charles Mason. Just sayin'.
-Glenn Benton is an ass
-Necrobutcher is an ass

+1

a big one btw

i didn't think Benton said anythign particularly stupid (by benton standards) on the documentary.

It was pretty sad to say the least though. I expected more metal stuff and less beasts of satan but w.e.

When are people going to realize that death metal is not about satanic worship and occult practice, but more about raping and murdering women, disembowling, decapitation, and occasionaly necrophilia? Sheesh...

Death metal ate my cat!

I too saw this when it aired in the UK.

It's an absolutely woeful piece of film making.

Seriously, there's not one good thing about it.

I remember posting an enormous rant about it in a different thread months ago, but can't remember which one.

There was nothing wrong with it really; it was just a bit misguided. It was more or less simply a documentary of the killings, it had little to do with death/black metal.

If anyone thinks this sort of music isn't a factor in these sort of things is stupid. Clearly it's not the cause, but it's easily a reinforcing factor. Should bands/musicians be held responsible? Of course not. The person(s) commiting these crimes are fucked up and would do this shit anyway, in some form or another. The music just provides a false sense of support for these turds.

I found nothing wrong with the documentary, really.

Well you watched it more recently than I, and it's faded in my memory somewhat.

But from my recollection it took a very, very accusative tone and attempts to convey "metal's side of the story" were perfunctory at best. Plus there were all the usual inaccuracies and misunderstandings that arise whenever some mainstream chump tries to talk seriously about this music.

Seems to me that metal is such an easy target, and as a result you get the laziest filmmakers tackling it. I doubt the same team would have the nerve to tackle violence in hip hop culture, for example.

AND ANOTHER THING *moves up a ranting gear*, if you are going to talk about this, fucking do it properly. Black Metal worries me all the time, but not because of dumbass kids and their stupid cults. How about talking about all the wierd fascist/environmentalist combinations and extremist politics involved in the scene? That's something genuinely interesting that's really worth talking about. Oh silly me, I forgot, that would involve research and actually looking to talk about something beyond what it's trendy to worry about.

This was so conspicuously an "outsiders looking in at the freakshow" type of film.

Is this a general statement about the producers of this documentary, or is this directed at me? I need to know before I kick my ranting gear into 5th.

Haha, don't worry that's directed at the producers of the program.

Word!

I didn't see this, but it doesn't suprise me at all that Ken would support it, he seems to hate Metal Heads with a passion and go out of his way to insult people who take it seriously or enjoy it. Which is fine, Metal heads put us with this kind of shit their whole lives, but lets get back to reality about if this kind of music is to blame or even helps this kind of stuff, which it doesn't......

I listen to fucked up music, I love GBK, Graveland, Arghoslent, tons of suicidal BM bands, My favorite bands on earth are Katatonia and Sentenced. I have read every fucked up horror novel and seen every fucked up movie I could get my hands on since I was roughly 14 or 15 years old, and never once in my life did I ever want to kill anyone or maim anyone or kill myself nor am I a racist.

It has NOTHING to do with the music, in fact violent music should be an outlet. You know what this kind of stuff has to do with? It comes from being raised shitty by your parents and having no morals what so ever. Yeah lets blame fucking video games, music, books, the fucking internet lets blame every fucking thing but who should really be blamed which is the fucked up people that do it and their parents who good give 2 shits about what their kids are doing.

You want to read a good documentry, writing on Death Metal check out the latest issue of Terrorizer, they have an awesome special on it that will mean a lot to a lot of us into this type of extreme metal. The US scene was never by thing but early Sweeden def was and this special covers it all. Don't watch shit written by outsiders that don't know a fucking thing about heavy or extreme music, it will jsut piss you off because it is all bullshit........

And just to add to that, you want to watch a good documentry about these type of fucked up killing watch that old Paradise Lost series from HBO about the murders in Little Rock.

Ken, I am not trying to insult you, but do you honestly think Death Metal is the blame here and that bullshit documentries making it look like some ignorant form of music are really the way to get the point across that parents and society in general ought to do a better job of raising their children. Because what this does is just make it all ok because is stupid Death Metal that makes kids crazy, not the fact that they are idiots to begin with.........

Another question, if you all had kids, lets say 13 to 18, would you let them listen to extreme Death Metal and Black Metal?