Metal Reviews

Must be bullshit then.

Hm, according to Wikipedia, it's 25 min between an LP and an EP.

Wikipedia isn't an an infallible source of information, as those university must be tired of hearing from lecturers. And on the other end of the spectrum, Dream Theater albums or Equilibrium's Sagas are way more than 40 minutes.

Actually, I think that , according to the record industry's standards what counts is the number of songs which is bullshit too btw.
By those standards a 60+ minutes album of Klaus Schultze featuring only one song is a single and an oldschool hardcore EP with 10 songs lasting a little over 10 minutes is an LP.
I say, let the artists decide.

And isn't Meshuggah's Catch 33 technically one song?

Ho, don't get me started on concept-album-which-are-several-songs-but-really-just-one-man-because-we-were-conceptualising-our-poor-piss-lyrics.... Pleaaaaase!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anything shorter than 30 minutes which isn't Hardcore Punk or Grindcore or Punky Thrash or raw Black Metal is an EP, anything longer is an album. Whatever the number of songs.

This is just my opinion as to how it should be, by the way. Of course, stuff like the themes matter too.

yup. The Mars Volta had to split Cassandra Gemini up on Frances the Mute because otherwise Universal would have marketed it as an EP. also Reverend Bizarre's Harbinger of Metal is like 70 minutes long, but is considered an EP. there's a lot of different standards - number of songs, length, what the songs are (albums = collection of songs meant to be together, EPs = leftovers from the albums they've made so far) - but really what it comes down to is what the band/label decide.



i'd say Catch33 is definitely one song, since if you try to listen to an individual part of it, it's kinda lame (no idea what the lyrics are and don't really care. Swedish bands are too obsessed with the thesaurus). not like Buried Inside's Chronoclast where most of the individual tracks works on its own, but they're tied together with recurring themes.

Moonsorrow's latest is 70 minutes as well and still an EP, though it has more to do with the character of the tracks. It's a half-hour of new material (one long track), which may well have been a 'proper' EP on its own, with covers and re-recordings tacked on.

Easily the best value-for-money EP in the history of metal, though.

Dopesmoker is a solid hour long and only an EP. noodles is right; it's up to the artist.

So, I'm right too, I said it first!

+1, for example in Catch 33 Autonomy Lost is just a variation on the same riff, so it doesn't really mean anything by itself.

Nope.

That was a pretty poor list, I gotta say...Where's the Hail of Bullets? Krisiun? Septic Flesh? Cor Scorpii? Mirrorthrone? Definitely doesn't seem representative at all of the best albums of 2008

Hm?

Fixed

.:c:.

(srsly, Hail of Bullets? I saw them live and thought that the singer must be having a bad day, then I heard a song and apparently he's supposed to sound like that......)

"That singer" is Martin van Drunen in all his glory, dude. I assume you're not at all a fan of early Pestilence or Asphyx...

Edit, just thought I'd add, after once more taking a look at you people's list I've concluded whoever thinks new Opeth, Protest the Hero (holy projectile vomit, batman!), Scar Symmetry (to the vomitmobile!)...ok anyone who thinks that every album on that list except for arguably Tankard, Nachtmystium, or Cynic is better than any of the albums I listed needs to get themselves a CAT scan. ASAP. Pronto. Nao!

The Krisiun is very dull. Hardly their best work at all.

I'm just going to call out everyone on this forum for having bad taste.

Mirrorthrone is awesome, though.

I agree that's its definitely not their best work in the least, but I certainly wouldn't call it dull. Perhaps it was because it followed AssassiNation that I was enthused by it, but I honestly do think it is a solid album and a step in the direction of a return to their former selves.

But you've focused on the Krisiun album. What is your opinion of new Septic Flesh, Mirrorthrone, and Cor Scorpii and and HoB's debuts? To me all those bands deserve much more recognition than 99% of the bands that did make that list.

Well, I reviewed the Septicflesh (one word now, for some strange reason) and the HoB, and gave both high scores. I've had that Mirrorthrone for a while but not got around to listening, and honestly have never heard of Cor Scorpii but they look interesting so may well check them out properly.