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It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Yeah right :roll:


DT rocks. especially every album besides Damage Done


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Whats wrong with damage done? I recall it got a good score on this site...

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And conserning vocalists,while I enjoy Liiva and do not really like Gossow,I don't see why being female has some sort of disastrous consequence to playing heavy metal.At least she doesn't sound like anyone else(that much).It's this type of attitude that keeps most people from getting into metal.Its fanbase is dominated by a bunch of closed minded,quick to threaten and curse individuals who tend to be more offensive than anything else.If anything there aren't enough women in metal,and I hope to see more someday.


I don't dislike Angela Gossow because she's a woman. I dislike her because her vocals are completely processed. She achieves the sound through studio trickery. The mindblowing thing about it is, they make no attempt to hide it whatsoever. Micheal basically went "Hey, this chick is hot and with enough pro tools work, she'll sound viscious! People will pay finally attention to us because of our vocalist, regardless of the quality of the music. I've hit the jackpot!" My sarcasm aside, this is exaclty how their newfound popularity came about. Horny 14 year olds support the band because Angela is pleasant to look at. I promise if Johan had been replaced with a male singer, or a frumpy chick, not even half of the people who pretend like they care would be buying their albums.

Perhaps. But you're being very harsh on Angela - I've seen them live twice, and she does very well onstage with no studio trickery to help her out.


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FrigidSymphony wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:
Kathaarian wrote:
noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Yeah right :roll:


DT rocks. especially every album besides Damage Done


Fixed.


Whats wrong with damage done? I recall it got a good score on this site...


It just seemed like a rehashed attempt of their older, superior albums. Yeah, a lot of people liked it, I'm just not one of them.


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And conserning vocalists,while I enjoy Liiva and do not really like Gossow,I don't see why being female has some sort of disastrous consequence to playing heavy metal.At least she doesn't sound like anyone else(that much).It's this type of attitude that keeps most people from getting into metal.Its fanbase is dominated by a bunch of closed minded,quick to threaten and curse individuals who tend to be more offensive than anything else.If anything there aren't enough women in metal,and I hope to see more someday.


I don't dislike Angela Gossow because she's a woman. I dislike her because her vocals are completely processed. She achieves the sound through studio trickery. The mindblowing thing about it is, they make no attempt to hide it whatsoever. Micheal basically went "Hey, this chick is hot and with enough pro tools work, she'll sound viscious! People will pay finally attention to us because of our vocalist, regardless of the quality of the music. I've hit the jackpot!" My sarcasm aside, this is exaclty how their newfound popularity came about. Horny 14 year olds support the band because Angela is pleasant to look at. I promise if Johan had been replaced with a male singer, or a frumpy chick, not even half of the people who pretend like they care would be buying their albums.

Perhaps. But you're being very harsh on Angela - I've seen them live twice, and she does very well onstage with no studio trickery to help her out.


No doubt that she can do it live. The problem is her voice doesn't carry much power in it's natural form. Hence the endless voice processing. I know AE aren't the first to do such a thing, but I'll be damned if they don't go out of their way to make it obvious.


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I prefer Angela to that guy they used to have.


AND she's a better vocalist.


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I prefer Angela to that guy they used to have.


AND she's a better vocalist.


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I prefer Angela to that guy they used to have.


AND she's a better vocalist.


I don't know, I kind of liked Johan and his phlegm-ball that won't come up sound.


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i have to say that i do prefer the old vocalist for arch enemy slightly more but i still like angela and anyone who says she cant sing or being negative about her vocals obviously havent seen arch enemy live. her vocals live are pretty damn good and yes on the albums (at least the last two anyway) they are processed but when she sings live she pulls it off and also lets not forget people, she is a woman doing this! i was trying to think, are there actually any other women that sing that way? there are plenty that do the clean operatic stuff but how many actually do the growl stuff?


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a crappy american band called light this city has a chick singing in it

and the chick from the doom metal band called Thorr's Hammer (i think...) makes Angela sound like a kitty cat purring


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i have to say that i do prefer the old vocalist for arch enemy slightly more but i still like angela and anyone who says she cant sing or being negative about her vocals obviously havent seen arch enemy live. her vocals live are pretty damn good and yes on the albums (at least the last two anyway) they are processed but when she sings live she pulls it off and also lets not forget people, she is a woman doing this! i was trying to think, are there actually any other women that sing that way? there are plenty that do the clean operatic stuff but how many actually do the growl stuff?


Wow.


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There's a metalcore band called Walls Of Jericho with a female vocalist. Screams rather than growls, but pretty intense all the same.

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She looks like Amy Lee after a few years on crack. I bet she speaks with a twang and chews tobacco as well.


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They look retarded.

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i have to say that i do prefer the old vocalist for arch enemy slightly more but i still like angela and anyone who says she cant sing or being negative about her vocals obviously havent seen arch enemy live.


In fact, I have seen Arch Enemy live. Good fun (especially when they opened with Silent Wars, that kicked ass). However, I still don't really like her vocals.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
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I prefer Angela to that guy they used to have.


AND she's a better vocalist.


I don't know, I kind of liked Johan and his phlegm-ball that won't come up sound.
I agree. Its endearingly shit, like Mustaine or Ozzy.


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Eternal Idol wrote:
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I prefer Angela to that guy they used to have.


AND she's a better vocalist.


I don't know, I kind of liked Johan and his phlegm-ball that won't come up sound.
I agree. Its endearingly shit, like Mustaine or Ozzy.


Mustaine i understand. But ozzy?


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Ok are you actually implying Ozzy can sing? Or just that his voice doesn't have a certain "hey it fits in well with the music" charm about it?


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Ok are you actually implying Ozzy can sing? Or just that his voice doesn't have a certain "hey it fits in well with the music" charm about it?


I never thought he was bad.......


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