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They're not Death Metal anymore, but they're still pretty good. Doomsday Machine was alright.


Then in what genre would you categorize them now? If course, it's not the typical death metal anymore. More of speed, imo.


It's Gothenburg of the very lowest order.


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I think Michael Amott has been experiencing some song-writing problems


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The last album was not terrible, like new inflames, but was rather just boring as fuck. There is still plenty of hope for this band becuase with their curent line up they have already made an exceptional album in wages of sin. Granted musically it was no Burning Bridges, but while Angela is admittedly not the best vocalist out there she is better than that shit breathed neanderthal they had before.

It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.


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their curent line up they have already made an exceptional album in wages of sin.

Not current line-up.[/pedantic]

And yeah, Liiva's voice is shitty, but it worked for Arch Enemy. I think my favourite AE album is Black Earth, or maybe Burning Bridges (but some stuff on there is just too sweet and slick).


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It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


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Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


No.


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noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


No.



I would also have to be among those that disagree.


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Granted musically it was no Burning Bridges, but while Angela is admittedly not the best vocalist out there she is better than that shit breathed neanderthal they had before.


Liiva had more range and was much more fitting and endearing than Fucktoy Gossow will ever be. Plus he had a lot more emotion than that robot of a vocalist they have now.

I thought Liiva was a crap vocalist at first, but he really grew on me.


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noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Yeah right :roll:


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Kathaarian wrote:
noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Yeah right :roll:


DT rocks. especially Damage Done

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Kathaarian wrote:
noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Yeah right :roll:


DT rocks. especially every album besides Damage Done


Fixed.


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DT ROCKS.


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Dt need to learn how to write an album of consistently good songs wrather than having 3ish on each one.

+ they'll never write anything as good as A Diamond For Disease


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noodles wrote:
Dt need to learn how to write an album of consistently good songs wrather than having 3ish on each one.

+ they'll never write anything as good as A Diamond For Disease


Except DT already did with The Gallery, The Mind's Eye, Projector, etc.


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
noodles wrote:
Dt need to learn how to write an album of consistently good songs wrather than having 3ish on each one.

+ they'll never write anything as good as A Diamond For Disease


Except DT already did with The Gallery, The Mind's Eye, Projector, etc.
haha no.


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noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


Wow.While a derailed topic,Arsis is pretty great,and unfortunately DT just don't "do" it for me.I have in all honesty tried to become as open minded as possible to experience all that the world has to offer.So someday down the road I'll buy a DT album and give it a few spins.

On topic,I am a little conserned about the lack of Chris Amott.And with the past two albums they have been falling into a nasty habbit of sucking.Okay,to be honest I just don't prefer the new style that much,and while some bands try to expand their sound,incorperate new elements or just try something new,Arch Enemy seems to be suffering from a lack of passion,interest and enthusiasm.I do truely hope for the best though,and maybe they will push themselves to new heights.

And conserning vocalists,while I enjoy Liiva and do not really like Gossow,I don't see why being female has some sort of disastrous consequence to playing heavy metal.At least she doesn't sound like anyone else(that much).It's this type of attitude that keeps most people from getting into metal.Its fanbase is dominated by a bunch of closed minded,quick to threaten and curse individuals who tend to be more offensive than anything else.If anything there aren't enough women in metal,and I hope to see more someday.


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noodles wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
noodles wrote:
Dt need to learn how to write an album of consistently good songs wrather than having 3ish on each one.

+ they'll never write anything as good as A Diamond For Disease


Except DT already did with The Gallery, The Mind's Eye, Projector, etc.
haha no.


I think it is very difficult to say that a band that has released a whole one full-length album is categorically better than a band that has been around for 17 years and helped create the genre both bands are in.


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On topic,I am a little conserned about the lack of Chris Amott.And with the past two albums they have been falling into a nasty habbit of sucking.Okay,to be honest I just don't prefer the new style that much,and while some bands try to expand their sound,incorperate new elements or just try something new,Arch Enemy seems to be suffering from a lack of passion,interest and enthusiasm.I do truely hope for the best though,and maybe they will push themselves to new heights.


I really wouldn't count on that ever happening. Micheal is pretty much comitted to breaking into the mainstream at this point. That's truly not inherently a bad thing, but the quality of the music is dropping off at a quick pace. Where there was once great soloing, and layered riffs, is now simple, easily digestable riffs that devolve into the "chugga-chugga" category far more times than anyone should be allowed to.

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And conserning vocalists,while I enjoy Liiva and do not really like Gossow,I don't see why being female has some sort of disastrous consequence to playing heavy metal.At least she doesn't sound like anyone else(that much).It's this type of attitude that keeps most people from getting into metal.Its fanbase is dominated by a bunch of closed minded,quick to threaten and curse individuals who tend to be more offensive than anything else.If anything there aren't enough women in metal,and I hope to see more someday.


I don't dislike Angela Gossow because she's a woman. I dislike her because her vocals are completely processed. She achieves the sound through studio trickery. The mindblowing thing about it is, they make no attempt to hide it whatsoever. Micheal basically went "Hey, this chick is hot and with enough pro tools work, she'll sound viscious! People will pay finally attention to us because of our vocalist, regardless of the quality of the music. I've hit the jackpot!" My sarcasm aside, this is exaclty how their newfound popularity came about. Horny 14 year olds support the band because Angela is pleasant to look at. I promise if Johan had been replaced with a male singer, or a frumpy chick, not even half of the people who pretend like they care would be buying their albums.


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As much as I'm happy that Michael Amott is making a living doing something he probably loves, its sad that he's lost all creative inspiration and is just relying on a very good marketting gimmick.


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noodles wrote:
Raistlin wrote:
It looks like it is pretty much up to Dark Tranquility to keep our ears filled with great melodic death.
Arsis's debut is better than anything Dark Tranquillity have done =)


I agree. Although I love Dark Tranquillity.


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