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How do you decide that they're undeveloped?


Exactly,a logical question.I love how these people automaticaly assume they are superior to everybody because of a belief.Everyone I or my friends have talked to only have fallbacks,lies and heresay.Whether we want to look at the highest cause of social stigmas,murder and war it all points to one solid direction.Thus I respect the "average" metalhead far more than any drone.I abhore cencorship and control,which all forms of judeo-christianity promote and do.I am all for freedom,equality and artistic freedom.God doesn't love everybody,he can go f himself,the fabrication of man. :mad: :lame:


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Good interview, but I disagree with the whole downloading thing. Downloading is a great way to check out if an album is good or not, a single or two isn't enough not because it's the best song on the album, but because it tends to be the most catchy. And unlike fucking Vincent, I'm sure the majority of us don't have the cash to buy every single 80+ MR album every week :rolleyes: TBH I think that downloading makes bands be more competitive since a person can only buy so many albums, a band should do their best so that their album gets bought instead of someone else's.


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No there aren't varying levels of abuse. All violence towards women, physical or emotional, is equal. Righting the emotional off as less important is just a way of you giving the West a free pass.

Edit: :lol: @ Rio. An elephant never forgets.


Yeah of course, if I go up to you and insult you or I go up to you and shoot you in the face it's still the same abuse.

And in most Western countries, men are suffering more now from a legal point of view, in divorces and the like. The fact is even if we go back a couple of years denying a woman a job because of gender differences and violent treatment of a woman because she isn't covered up enough is a whole different level.


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SoulSociety wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
No there aren't varying levels of abuse. All violence towards women, physical or emotional, is equal. Righting the emotional off as less important is just a way of you giving the West a free pass.

Edit: :lol: @ Rio. An elephant never forgets.


Yeah of course, if I go up to you and insult you or I go up to you and shoot you in the face it's still the same abuse.
Insults don't necessarily classify as violence. They are affronts to a person but violence results in a radical upheaval of your life. Simply insulting someone isn't comparable to the daily self-denigration one puts oneself through society's "standards".

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And in most Western countries, men are suffering more now from a legal point of view, in divorces and the like.
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The fact is even if we go back a couple of years denying a woman a job because of gender differences and violent treatment of a woman because she isn't covered up enough is a whole different level.
But you don't understand that reinforcing the idea that women have to wear makeup or be looked at askew and creating an environment where women constantly have to check their makeup for mistakes or blemishes is equally stressful as just covering their skin up with a scarf. It's not a qualitative measurement but to think that women have it equal to men in the West who just have to shower and wear clothes in order to be accepted is ridiculous. Western women are subjugated by corporate fashion trends in the same way Muslim women are subject to Sharia law.[/quote]


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Women get to wear cooler clothes though. :[


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And be bi-curious without stimulating disgust and being ostracized by their peers.

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Maybe if your peers are jerks.


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What man has ever looked at two chicks making out and had an immediate reaction of disgust?

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What woman has ever looked at two dudes making out and an immediate reaction of not-"Which one would make a better best friend!?"?


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What man has ever looked at two chicks making out and had an immediate reaction of disgust?

I have. You have to understand the "Lesbians... not like in the movies" motivational picture. All the lesbians I see in real life are fat shaven-headed dykes with unstrategically applied piercings and often a rather quaint handicap like a lazy eye. Put two of those together hand in hand or possibly even worse (these people often go to great lengths to prove their 'uniqueness' to the public), and you'll be retching bile for a fortnight.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
How do you decide that they're undeveloped?


Exactly,a logical question.I love how these people automaticaly assume they are superior to everybody because of a belief.Everyone I or my friends have talked to only have fallbacks,lies and heresay.Whether we want to look at the highest cause of social stigmas,murder and war it all points to one solid direction.Thus I respect the "average" metalhead far more than any drone.I abhore cencorship and control,which all forms of judeo-christianity promote and do.I am all for freedom,equality and artistic freedom.God doesn't love everybody,he can go f himself,the fabrication of man. :mad: :lame:


belief shuts down the mind to give creedence to other modes of thought exactly i agree. We as human beings have the tendency to back up whatever we believe with passion, vitriol, lack of logic whatever it is it just seems like a fundamental part of being a human.

It's hard to prove the notion of a superior human being, Hitler tried it and invented his proof and eugenics has a grain of truth but genetics is a new science and eugenics is an old notion. I don't believe in a superhuman, but anyone can better themselves physically and mentally. I feel good being a human!


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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
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What man has ever looked at two chicks making out and had an immediate reaction of disgust?

I have. You have to understand the "Lesbians... not like in the movies" motivational picture. All the lesbians I see in real life are fat shaven-headed dykes with unstrategically applied piercings and often a rather quaint handicap like a lazy eye. Put two of those together hand in hand or possibly even worse (these people often go to great lengths to prove their 'uniqueness' to the public), and you'll be retching bile for a fortnight.


But those chicks are disgusting anyway :P I've been fortunate enough to not have to witness too many of those.

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Of course women are in living hell right now because they 'have' to put on make up. A lot of men are becoming fucking metrosexuals these days, as well as men getting a lot of plastic surgery being done on them. The fact is that women like putting on make up because it hides any blemishes they may have, as well as making them look younger in some cases, so it's not really a case of society 'forcing' them to do it. I think a person would like to remain youthful forever not because it's conforming to society's norms, but because at your youth you're at your peak.


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Yeah, you're pretty quick to assume that women wear makeup and dress up nice because Mr. Evil Corporation and Dr. Sinister Western Society pressured them to do it. :\


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Oh and that whole cultural relativism thing really is bullshit.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Oh and that whole cultural relativism thing really is bullshit.


any culture which embraces monetary pursuits like American culture is not a culture to be exported to all corners of the world.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Yeah, you're pretty quick to assume that women wear makeup and dress up nice because Mr. Evil Corporation and Dr. Sinister Western Society pressured them to do it. :\
I'm not saying that exactly. I'm saying that social norms have been internalized to such a degree that it's become nearly required and expected of people to the point where it causes harm; whether that serves capitalism or is simply another way to keep people stressed and disoriented in order to be controlled, I'm not really saying.


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Islam needs to be erased, blah blah. Typical modern American to me.
It sounded like the standard anti-religion comment by a metalhead in my opinion. Seriously metalheads need to read something besides Nietzsche.


Why metalheads? I've surprisingly found the average metalhead to be quite undeveloped when it comes to philosophical notions about God.


Fuck man, one thing you are not is cool.


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traptunderice wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Yeah, you're pretty quick to assume that women wear makeup and dress up nice because Mr. Evil Corporation and Dr. Sinister Western Society pressured them to do it. :\
I'm not saying that exactly. I'm saying that social norms have been internalized to such a degree that it's become nearly required and expected of people to the point where it causes harm; whether that serves capitalism or is simply another way to keep people stressed and disoriented in order to be controlled, I'm not really saying.


Women wearing makeup has become required and expected so much that it causes harm?

Pfft.


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What woman has ever looked at two dudes making out and an immediate reaction of not-"Which one would make a better best friend!?"?


I originally missed this glorious post...


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