CELLADOR: Debut Video Posted Online (#1470)

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:33 pm

hellraiser_xes wrote:

I think it's the same as well. Why? Is there any difference?

The production is different. The album was produced by Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel). Plus there are no effects. If Rad is saying he doesn't like the vocals as much as the demo vocals, I can agree somewhat.

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:48 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Aparently this video was on Headbanger's Ball last night. http://www.mtv2.com/#series/10896

Radagast · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:52 pm

metalNESS wrote:

hellraiser_xes wrote:

I think it's the same as well. Why? Is there any difference?

The production is different. The album was produced by Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel). Plus there are no effects. If Rad is saying he doesn't like the vocals as much as the demo vocals, I can agree somewhat.

Yeah, a little. He sounds somewhat differnet. So is Michael Gremio just a different name he's using now?

hellraiser_xes · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:05 pm

metalNESS wrote:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Aparently this video was on Headbanger's Ball last night. http://www.mtv2.com/#series/10896

Headbangers Ball?! We should deem this band a sellout from now on. HAhahahaa!

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:07 pm

Radagast wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

hellraiser_xes wrote:

I think it's the same as well. Why? Is there any difference?

The production is different. The album was produced by Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel). Plus there are no effects. If Rad is saying he doesn't like the vocals as much as the demo vocals, I can agree somewhat.

Yeah, a little. He sounds somewhat differnet. So is Michael Gremio just a different name he's using now?

Funny you say that. Yes, it is. He changed his name. That is his name on and off stage. Chris was thinking about doing the same thing, but I think he came around to realizing how dumb that would be. They wanted to change their last (sir) names to match names from a video game. Nerds.

Radagast · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:09 pm

metalNESS wrote:

Radagast wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

hellraiser_xes wrote:

I think it's the same as well. Why? Is there any difference?

The production is different. The album was produced by Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel). Plus there are no effects. If Rad is saying he doesn't like the vocals as much as the demo vocals, I can agree somewhat.

Yeah, a little. He sounds somewhat differnet. So is Michael Gremio just a different name he's using now?

Funny you say that. Yes, it is. He changed his name. That is his name on and off stage. Chris was thinking about doing the same thing, but I think he came around to realizing how dumb that would be. They wanted to change their last (sir) names to match names from a video game. Nerds.

Does Bill get his assumed name from where I hope he gets it?

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:11 pm

Radagast wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

Radagast wrote:

metalNESS wrote:

hellraiser_xes wrote:

I think it's the same as well. Why? Is there any difference?

The production is different. The album was produced by Erik Rutan (Hate Eternal, Morbid Angel). Plus there are no effects. If Rad is saying he doesn't like the vocals as much as the demo vocals, I can agree somewhat.

Yeah, a little. He sounds somewhat differnet. So is Michael Gremio just a different name he's using now?

Funny you say that. Yes, it is. He changed his name. That is his name on and off stage. Chris was thinking about doing the same thing, but I think he came around to realizing how dumb that would be. They wanted to change their last (sir) names to match names from a video game. Nerds.

Does Bill get his assumed name from where I hope he gets it?

No he changed his name to make it sound more American. It's really some obscure Brazilian name.

Where did you think Bill got his name from?

Radagast · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:13 pm

Aliens. The nerd in me knows most of the marines had the same first name as the actor who portrayed them, which would make Hudson (the coolest bastard in cinema history) have the first name Bill.

Ness · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:16 pm

Radagast wrote:

Aliens. The nerd in me knows most of the marines had the same first name as the actor who portrayed them, which would make Hudson (the coolest bastard in cinema history) have the first name Bill.

HAHA! I don't know. Maybe he did.

Rhys · **Posted:** Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:06 pm

Great song, shit video!

They dont remind me of dragonforce though, different vocal delivery, and guitar work you can actually hear, not a blur of lightspeed riffs. And concise solo-ing, not 3 minutes of it!

Seriousyl, the singer should either grow long hair if he wants to keep the eyeliner, or lose the makeup.

dreaming_h · **Posted:** Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:34 am

metalNESS wrote:

You guys need to listen to more Helloween if you think they sound like Dragonforce. Just b/c they're fast doesn't mean they sound like Dragonforce.

+1

'Ness is absolutely right. I only heard this song but judging by this motherfucker Kiske era Helloween is their main influence...liked the song a lot but the looks of the band... well let's put it mildly: they want to be accepted by the american public, for else I can't imagine wtf was the singer thinking about wearing that eyeliner-make-up sh@#! totally G-A-Y;...

hellraiser_xes · **Posted:** Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:57 am

Gotta admit the vocals are so Helloween. About their looks, well it's kinda lame. The band looks so metalcorish while the vocalist is an image of emo-ism. Pretty stupid if their playing Power Metal. It totally never clicks. They should try to rectify it if they wanna be accepted by the true metalheads. They will be accepted by the mainstream folks for sure. But how true are they? :lol:

Ness · **Posted:** Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:05 am

hellraiser_xes wrote:

Gotta admit the vocals are so Helloween. About their looks, well it's kinda lame. The band looks so metalcorish while the vocalist is an image of emo-ism. Pretty stupid if their playing Power Metal. It totally never clicks. They should try to rectify it if they wanna be accepted by the true metalheads. They will be accepted by the mainstream folks for sure. But how true are they? :lol:

Lame.

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