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Author: | noodles [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:52 am ] |
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I thought that someone should do this eventually, so I wrote something that I think we could all agree on. I'll start off with Death Metal. Death is really technical, probably the second most technical style of Metal, behind only Power Metal. And they don't really follow a song format. Extremely fast playing and deep growling. You won't like it. Black Metal. It relies mostly on its atmosphere rather than anything else. They don't play as fast as other types of Metal. This is the Metal subgenre responsible for all the "Satanism" and whatnot that is usually associated with all forms of Metal. They tend to have very long songs with little or no vocals. They have deep growling, but not as brutal as Death growling. You might like this one, but I doubt it. Doom Metal. Like Black, it relies on atmosphere with heavy brooding guitars with long songs. Except their songs are twice as long as the typical Black Metal song. Black Sabbath are the originators of Doom and Metal in general. They don't use nearly as much growling as Death or Black, but there may be some. But just think Black Metal without growls, and you'll have Doom. You might like it. Folk Metal. Quite literally, a subgenre of Metal that uses Folk elements in their style. Like Black Metal, this type of Metal originated in Norse countries like Norway and Denmark. Except they don't have the major influence of Satanism like Black Metal. Most Folk Metal bands will speak in their country's native tongue, and don't use much growling. You might like it. Gothic Metal. Like Black and Doom, they rely heavily on atmosphere, but don't use growling vocals often. Instead, they use female singers and they have a lot more melody in their music. They use Operatic type vocals, and will often have one male or female interchange in vocals. You might like it. Industrial Metal. Very heavy riffing with some growling, but that's about it. It uses a lot of electronic/techno elements in its music, making from some unique stuff. I think you'd like it. Melo-Death. Essentially what it is, Death Metal that's very Melodic. Melo-Death isn't as technical as Death, and they use song structures. They have very deep growling, but it sounds a lot more melodic than actual Death. I don't think you'd like it, however. Power Metal. Power Metal is the most technical style of Metal, and they use very, very, very fast playing in their style. Power Metal is usually looked down upon because fo their extremely cheesy lyrics, talking about "going off to fight the battle," or "We will fight and kill this dragon and be heroes." A lot of people will say that it sounds like video game music also, but only a couple Power Metal bands sound like that. Progressive Metal. They don't play as fast as Power Metal, but they are sometimes looked down upon for cheesy lyrics and over the top vocalists. Progressive Metal is also known for extremely long songs, longer than Black Metal songs and on par with Doom in terms of longevity. Most Progressive Metal bands will release concept albums, such as Pain of Salvation, whom all of the albums they've release are concept albums. Opeth is probably the only exception to this rule, as they've only released one concept album. Others will probably argue that Opeth aren't Progressive, as they have Death style growling, but they're a mix of both, with their main root genre being Progressive. Thrash Metal. I like to call it "Mainstream Metal." Since this is easily the most commercial type of Metal, relying on repetitive passages and some rock elements, and with bands such as Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer representing it. They're known for very fast playing, but they use tons of melody, and use virtually no growling, just scratchy singing. I could describe more about it, but I could go on and on, and I really don't feel like it now. |
Author: | rio [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 11:47 am ] |
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Ummmm Quote: Black Metal. It relies mostly on its atmosphere rather than anything else. They don't play as fast as other types of Metal. What tha hell? Quote: But just think Black Metal without growls, and you'll have Doom Yes I can't deny that. Quote: Thrash Metal.
I like to call it "Mainstream Metal." Since this is easily the most commercial type of Metal ![]() |
Author: | Jürgen [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:50 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: Death is really technical, probably the second most technical style of Metal, behind only Power Metal. And they don't really follow a song format. Extremely fast playing. What you're describing is only one side of death metal. There's a lot of death metal out there (especially older bands) that are primitive, follow basic song structures in their songs and aren't all that fast. Check out Hellhammer, Master (US), Slaughter (Can) and Autopsy for some examples. noodles wrote: Black Metal relies mostly on its atmosphere rather than anything else. They don't play as fast as other types of Metal. They tend to have very long songs with little or no vocals. They have deep growling, but not as brutal as Death growling. Although it isn't the most trendy style these days, there is a lot of really fast, brutal BM. Check out stuff like Blasphemy, Archgoat and old Beherit: brutal, fast, short songs with very deep growly vocals. noodles wrote: Just think Black Metal without growls, and you'll have Doom. Ummm.... No. noodles wrote: Like Black Metal, Folk Metal originated in Norse countries like Norway and Denmark. Skyclad is scandinavian? Wow, i didn't know that. noodles wrote: I like to call Thrash Metal "Mainstream Metal." Since this is easily the most commercial type of Metal, relying on repetitive passages and some rock elements, and with bands such as Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer representing it. They're known for very fast playing, but they use tons of melody.
The most commercial type of metal? Maybe if you consider stuff like Metallica's black album and Gayswitch Engage as prime examples of thrash. Tons of melody? Go download some old Sodom and Kreator now! |
Author: | Dago [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:50 pm ] |
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Black metal is not always slow and atmospheric. An example: Ad Hominem, Funeral Mist, Marduk etc etc And Jurgen although i agree with you about death metal not always being technical i have to disagree with you about the Autopsy example. I mean they are raw yes, but also technical and have a lot of Death (firs-era) influences especially is Severed Survival. I find also Thrash Metal along with Black Metal and Doom Metal the genres to be more "underground" in the metal scene... |
Author: | Jürgen [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 3:22 pm ] |
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Dago wrote: And Jurgen although i agree with you about death metal not always being technical i have to disagree with you about the Autopsy example. I mean they are raw yes, but also technical and have a lot of Death (firs-era) influences especially is Severed Survival.
Yeah, that sort of came out wrong. Autopsy have a technical and sometimes even proggy element in their music. What i was referring to with the Autopsy example was that a lot of their stuff is slow to mid-tempo, no hyperspeed blasting there. |
Author: | Ness [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 4:21 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: Power Metal. Power Metal is the most technical style of Metal, and they use very, very, very fast playing in their style. Power Metal is usually looked down upon because fo their extremely cheesy lyrics, talking about "going off to fight the battle," or "We will fight and kill this dragon and be heroes." A lot of people will say that it sounds like video game music also, but only a couple Power Metal bands sound like that. Most metal sounds like video game music. Go play some old NES games and tell me you don't hear power metal when "The heroes are going into battle." Listen to some Old Man's Child and tell me they don't sound like Boss music from an old NES game. Quote: Thrash Metal.
I like to call it "Mainstream Metal." Since this is easily the most commercial type of Metal, relying on repetitive passages and some rock elements, and with bands such as Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer representing it. They're known for very fast playing, but they use tons of melody, and use virtually no growling, just scratchy singing. I could describe more about it, but I could go on and on, and I really don't feel like it now. This... this is just insane. I like what you're doing here noodles, but I think you need to know about metal in order to define and categorize it. |
Author: | Misha [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:21 pm ] |
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Well, if you speed up rock and roll and make it a lot nastier, then you basically get thrash metal, I dig Noodles' point... Melodeath might be an easier genre though, but the growls maybe give thrash metal the accesibility advantage. |
Author: | Dago [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:35 pm ] |
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metalNESS wrote: This... this is just insane. I like what you're doing here noodles, but I think you need to know about metal in order to define and categorize it.
He especially needs to listen to more thrash.. Try some Sadus and Mekong Delta... Not what i call mainstream. |
Author: | Jürgen [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:36 pm ] |
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Misha wrote: Well, if you speed up rock and roll and make it a lot nastier, then you basically get thrash metal.
Yeah, speed/thrash metal is basically just traditional heavy metal sped up with some added punk influence, so a lot of bands have a rocking sound. What i disagreed with was noodles' claim that thrash is the most accessible genre of metal. A lot of teenage girls listen to Nightwish and stuff like that, but i've yet to meet one who listens to Dark Angel. |
Author: | Misha [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:34 pm ] |
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Jürgen wrote: Misha wrote: Well, if you speed up rock and roll and make it a lot nastier, then you basically get thrash metal. Yeah, speed/thrash metal is basically just traditional heavy metal sped up with some added punk influence, so a lot of bands have a rocking sound. What i disagreed with was noodles' claim that thrash is the most accessible genre of metal. A lot of teenage girls listen to Nightwish and stuff like that, but i've yet to meet one who listens to Dark Angel. Very true, but there are also heaps of metallica, slayer, megadeth and pantera fans. I can see his point. |
Author: | Carnifex Umbris [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:36 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: Death is really technical, probably the second most technical style of Metal, behind only Power Metal. And they don't really follow a song format. Extremely fast playing and deep growling. You won't like it.
What the hell? Are you just trying to annoy people into flaming you, or are you being serious? |
Author: | Morlock [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:13 pm ] |
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noodles wrote: Industrial Metal.
Very heavy riffing with some growling, but that's about it. It uses a lot of electronic/techno elements in its music, making from some unique stuff. I think you'd like it. What are you a retard? I fucking hate Industrial Metal. I can't think of anything more boring and stupid. And powermetal isn't the most technical of all metal, the stuff in brutal technical death metal is muuuuuuch more technical. And black metal can be just as fast as any other type of metal. |
Author: | Morlock [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:19 pm ] |
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metalNESS wrote: Most metal sounds like video game music. Go play some old NES games and tell me you don't hear power metal when "The heroes are going into battle." Listen to some Old Man's Child and tell me they don't sound like Boss music from an old NES game. HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT |
Author: | The_Voice [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:44 pm ] |
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Big LoL at this thread ![]() |
Author: | Legacy Of The Night [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:07 pm ] |
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Morlock wrote: metalNESS wrote: Most metal sounds like video game music. Go play some old NES games and tell me you don't hear power metal when "The heroes are going into battle." Listen to some Old Man's Child and tell me they don't sound like Boss music from an old NES game. HOLY SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT +1!!!!!! |
Author: | Metalhead_Bastard [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:22 am ] |
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Noodles is riling everyone up on purpose, whooo! Fagmaster wrote: Thrash Metal.
I like to call it "Mainstream Metal." Since this is easily the most commercial type of Metal, relying on repetitive passages and some rock elements, and with bands such as Metallica, Megadeth, and Slayer representing it. They're known for very fast playing, but they use tons of melody, and use virtually no growling, just scratchy singing. I could describe more about it, but I could go on and on, and I really don't feel like it now. AAARRGGGHHHHH I tryed not to be riled up by something obviously there to annoy people but goddamit, what the FUCK? |
Author: | Caligula_K [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:34 am ] |
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Thrash is definitely very mainstream. Dark Angel have basically admitted that their entire career is based on the music of Biggie Smalls. |
Author: | Eyesore [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:00 am ] |
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I'm beginning to think noodles is an alternate account. Either that or he's just slowly losing his mind. |
Author: | The_Voice [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:03 am ] |
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I believe he just got a wierd sense of humor and enjoys being the forum fag. |
Author: | Eyesore [ Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:05 am ] |
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The_Voice wrote: I believe he just got a wierd sense of humor and enjoys being the forum fag.
We should ban him, huh? ![]() |
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