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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:18 pm 
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Oh this was the Rex Brown album! I have to sit down and listen to one of their albums the whole through instead of just random tracks. Great main riff as hoped for. Here's one from a band whose vocalist has been at the center of quality metal in his country for over 30 years. https://youtu.be/luYQItUiOMw


Always happy to hear Hail of Bullets, a band that should still be pounding out war anthems. Here's one of the old-school death revivalists who manage to do it half as good, if not better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1Qa5i0xQ4


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Oh this was the Rex Brown album! I have to sit down and listen to one of their albums the whole through instead of just random tracks. Great main riff as hoped for. Here's one from a band whose vocalist has been at the center of quality metal in his country for over 30 years. https://youtu.be/luYQItUiOMw


Always happy to hear Hail of Bullets, a band that should still be pounding out war anthems. Here's one of the old-school death revivalists who manage to do it half as good, if not better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1Qa5i0xQ4


Lik has a nice chunky Swedish death metal sound with plenty of good riffs. Reminded of another band from the same country and label. https://youtu.be/de81YCyyggo


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Lik has a nice chunky Swedish death metal sound with plenty of good riffs. Reminded of another band from the same country and label. https://youtu.be/de81YCyyggo


The Crown! Good stuff, although I've never loved them quite as much as other Swedish bands, even like the Haunted and At the Gates. Maybe just my fault, maybe their songwriting never quite grabbed me? I'm hearing a fair amount of latter-day Marduk here, though, which is making me think I need to relisten to both bands...?

Anyway, another Swedish death project, with a vocalist you may recognise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMCp5cUhos


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Lik has a nice chunky Swedish death metal sound with plenty of good riffs. Reminded of another band from the same country and label. https://youtu.be/de81YCyyggo


The Crown! Good stuff, although I've never loved them quite as much as other Swedish bands, even like the Haunted and At the Gates. Maybe just my fault, maybe their songwriting never quite grabbed me? I'm hearing a fair amount of latter-day Marduk here, though, which is making me think I need to relisten to both bands...?

Anyway, another Swedish death project, with a vocalist you may recognise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtMCp5cUhos

Wow The Haunted over The Crown is a take I don't quite agree with, haha. I never thought about The Crown's songwriting, just know their riffs were excellent for their first five albums or so.

Yes, I recognize Mr. Liiva. One of my favorite vocalists in the genre of all time! I like that old Arch Enemy reformed as Black Earth and have toured and even made some new material in recent years: a real shame that such an interesting spin on melodic death metal got derailed by Amott falling for Gossow. But on the other hand, AE's songwriting probably gets worse and more pop influenced no matter who the vocalist was. Anyway the melodies on this Hearse song are huge and infectious. Great stuff!

Speaking of great vocalists, can wait to hear this band's new album later this year. https://youtu.be/W72Lnz1n-jw


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Wow The Haunted over The Crown is a take I don't quite agree with, haha. I never thought about The Crown's songwriting, just know their riffs were excellent for their first five albums or so.


Haha, it's a controversial one, I know. Always enjoyed them more, though I know that's a niche opinion among the metallati!

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Yes, I recognize Mr. Liiva. One of my favorite vocalists in the genre of all time! I like that old Arch Enemy reformed as Black Earth and have toured and even made some new material in recent years: a real shame that such an interesting spin on melodic death metal got derailed by Amott falling for Gossow. But on the other hand, AE's songwriting probably gets worse and more pop influenced no matter who the vocalist was. Anyway the melodies on this Hearse song are huge and infectious. Great stuff!


Hearse are genuinely underrated, and I wish they'd do more stuff, but I guess there's only so far you can take it. Still, fun project.

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Speaking of great vocalists, can wait to hear this band's new album later this year. https://youtu.be/W72Lnz1n-jw


Ah, that is an interesting pick. I listened to this when it was out and liked the melodies (cringe lyrics though!) but didn't like it enough overall to bother reviewing. Apart from certain bands (*cough* Trivium *cough*) the whole deathcore/metalcore thing has aged pretty badly, and the stuff I enjoy from it still is earlier stuff like Botch rather than the bands that still try and push it. But fair play to Whitechapel for trying something different, and that certainly is one of their best songs to date.

And so to a core-y band that you're probably aware of, but I don't remember us discussing (recently, at least) and here's a new song from anyway - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA315mvXrCs


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Ah, that is an interesting pick. I listened to this when it was out and liked the melodies (cringe lyrics though!) but didn't like it enough overall to bother reviewing. Apart from certain bands (*cough* Trivium *cough*) the whole deathcore/metalcore thing has aged pretty badly, and the stuff I enjoy from it still is earlier stuff like and the stuff I enjoy from it still is earlier stuff like Botch rather than the bands that still try and push it. But fair play to Whitechapel for trying something different, and that certainly is one of their best songs to date.

And so to a core-y band that you're probably aware of, but I don't remember us discussing (recently, at least) and here's a new song from anyway


Gonna die on that Trivium hill huh? :lol: Yes, agreed generally with you, Botch is one of the best. The 'cringe lyrics' from Whitechapel became significantly less cringe when I read the vocalist's mother had schizophrenia and the demon in the song is a manifestation from that schizophrenia. The song is from her perspective. Actually have found their lyrics to be at times a very clever way of appealing to the famed immaturity of the deathcore crowd with actual meaning behind it.

I don't care about lyrics all that much. I do like that band's movement away from 100% deathcore to more Tool inspired material. The new album is supposed to continue that trend.

I posted Rolo Tomassi before. Really good band overall imo, with the caveat that the first couple albums don't hold up that well. New single is ok, but I like their clean stuff the most.

New serpent column just came out. Heard it yet? I do like the Blut Aus Nord influence in places. https://youtu.be/p1FO6pBEuxc


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Gonna die on that Trivium hill huh? :lol: Yes, agreed generally with you, Botch is one of the best. The 'cringe lyrics' from Whitechapel became significantly less cringe when I read the vocalist's mother had schizophrenia and the demon in the song is a manifestation from that schizophrenia. The song is from her perspective. Actually have found their lyrics to be at times a very clever way of appealing to the famed immaturity of the deathcore crowd with actual meaning behind it.

I don't care about lyrics all that much. I do like that band's movement away from 100% deathcore to more Tool inspired material. The new album is supposed to continue that trend.

I posted Rolo Tomassi before. Really good band overall imo, with the caveat that the first couple albums don't hold up that well. New single is ok, but I like their clean stuff the most.

New serpent column just came out. Heard it yet? I do like the Blut Aus Nord influence in places. https://youtu.be/p1FO6pBEuxc


I'll never admit to being wrong! But it's interesting to know about the Whitechapel lyrics, fair play. And good luck to them going on.

Of course you introduced me to RT; what can I say, there's too much good music to be remembering important stuff like who discovered it first? But I do enjoy them and am looking forward to that new one.

New Serpent Column! Haven't heard it, am looking forward; a particularly abrasive modern black project. The experimental aspects work well, such as the percussive experiments here. Can't wait to hear more of it.

A shift onwards, a project I've appreciated but not loved. Are they overrated? Maybe. A bit unfocused for me, but then, maybe just a lack of discernment?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtRXatjj1s


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A shift onwards, a project I've appreciated but not loved. Are they overrated? Maybe. A bit unfocused for me, but then, maybe just a lack of discernment?

https:/ww.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtRXatjj1s


Yeah I liking Melting Sun, but I remember it being a bit unfocused so that criticism makes sense. This was good, will have to listen more to new release. Speaking of promising but unfocused, wasn't expecting this band to ever resemble disembowelment...https://youtu.be/xF8GfO_sxbs


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Yeah I liking Melting Sun, but I remember it being a bit unfocused so that criticism makes sense. This was good, will have to listen more to new release. Speaking of promising but unfocused, wasn't expecting this band to ever resemble disembowelment...https://youtu.be/xF8GfO_sxbs


Never quite got into these guys on past albums, despite the hype, but that might have to change, this is indeed Disembowelment-y. And speaking of underrated bands with daft names and a hardcore turn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fC8FHC7VFo


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Yeah I liking Melting Sun, but I remember it being a bit unfocused so that criticism makes sense. This was good, will have to listen more to new release. Speaking of promising but unfocused, wasn't expecting this band to ever resemble disembowelment...https://youtu.be/xF8GfO_sxbs


Never quite got into these guys on past albums, despite the hype, but that might have to change, this is indeed Disembowelment-y. And speaking of underrated bands with daft names and a hardcore turn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fC8FHC7VFo


Portrayal of Guilt has tended to alternate good ideas with frustrating songwriting choices, so agreed. The potential is definitely there though, especially if they indeed have been taking cues from Disembowelment.
Fury Divine seems to have some core influence with a lot of black metal here. Like the combo, and thankful we got a solo at the end of a long song.
This band previously was blocked out of my consciousness, but I actually like this new track. Why does deathcore get into metal-archives so easily while anything influenced by several metal bands and Converge will likely never be added? Somebody over there really hates Converge :lol: https://youtu.be/2CZLy2l0YTk


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Portrayal of Guilt has tended to alternate good ideas with frustrating songwriting choices, so agreed. The potential is definitely there though, especially if they indeed have been taking cues from Disembowelment.
Fury Divine seems to have some core influence with a lot of black metal here. Like the combo, and thankful we got a solo at the end of a long song.
This band previously was blocked out of my consciousness, but I actually like this new track. Why does deathcore get into metal-archives so easily while anything influenced by several metal bands and Converge will likely never be added? Somebody over there really hates Converge :lol: https://youtu.be/2CZLy2l0YTk


It's okay? I think I need to try more from them. Techdeath still does better than deathcore overall I think, even with the gimmickier types like these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuSD92fIWXg


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Sorry but techdeath I find boring as hell 90% of the time. You said it, Archspire is gimmicky. I won't post deathcore or slam again if you stay away from techdeath. Here is some thrash.
https://youtu.be/TxQ0WKquTPk


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Here is some thrash. https://youtu.be/TxQ0WKquTPk

Now we're talking, boys. The Chileans have been killing the thrash game lately with quality releases from the mighty Ripper, Demoniac and these boys. Track is a little chaotic through the first half but finds it's feet in the middle and then never lets up. Outro especially rips hard with some speedy downpicking layered underneath a blistering lead that had me wishing for more. This album may end up being a year-end favorite. Good stuff, man.

Not a Chilean beast, but no less savage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCQJ1LSy8PQ

Bears more than a little resemblance to prime Kreator, which is never a bad thing.

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Enjoyed both of those thrashy examples! Another one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7j8iNAB0Ng


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Great stuff on both counts, thanks for sharing guys. Hellripper a bit speedier but slows down at 2:45. Liked both lead breaks. Dominator's track has that massive mid-paced riff in the middle which thankfully repeats at the close of the song. By all means please post more recent thrash if either of you like, mostly a blind spot for me.

Had to post this band because I just saw their first out of pandemic performance. 30 years old now, and such a massive sound live with just a power trio. https://youtu.be/qhF6wLx465w


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Had to post this band because I just saw their first out of pandemic performance. 30 years old now, and such a massive sound live with just a power trio. https://youtu.be/qhF6wLx465w


Always one of those bands that I respected rather than loved, the 'Fetus, but I did like that last album, and going back through their discog does show them off well. There's a murderous bluntness to them akin to classic Suffocation.

And so to a newer death metal band, but one with a more than solid grasp of atmosphere and a touch of that same NY excellence alongside more death/doom influences. Their second album out soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khFvkgT-c7E


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And so to a newer death metal band, but one with a more than solid grasp of atmosphere and a touch of that same NY excellence alongside more death/doom influences. Their second album out soon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khFvkgT-c7E


Mortiferum track was very good, especially the last few minutes. Nice balance of fuzzy crunch, pleasant pinches, and murky atmosphere which you alluded to.

Here is a new track from 'a new to you' at the time band that you reviewed in an Abigor split back in 2017. https://youtu.be/9YV4p7bDYz8


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Here is a new track from 'a new to you' at the time band that you reviewed in an Abigor split back in 2017. https://youtu.be/9YV4p7bDYz8


TDS! Hadn't heard much from them since the split, but I see that they've put another out that I'll have to get ears upon. Good, solid black metal with a hefty dose of :dio: .

A new song from a band I haven't always loved but who do it pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvlTfjYjppo


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Here is a new track from 'a new to you' at the time band that you reviewed in an Abigor split back in 2017. https://youtu.be/9YV4p7bDYz8


TDS! Hadn't heard much from them since the split, but I see that they've put another out that I'll have to get ears upon. Good, solid black metal with a hefty dose of :dio: .

A new song from a band I haven't always loved but who do it pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvlTfjYjppo

This Astrophobos. Stays true to the Swedish black/death sound with memorable riffs.
Well, might as well let this cat out of the bag: what are your initial thoughts? I thought the singles were pretty good, especially Phalanx. This track flows pretty well into the closer https://youtu.be/TxR3zUDaJZ8


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Well, might as well let this cat out of the bag: what are your initial thoughts? I thought the singles were pretty good, especially Phalanx. This track flows pretty well into the closer https://youtu.be/TxR3zUDaJZ8


I honestly need more time with it; so far it seems technically fine but not quite as good as the last couple of albums as channelling that into compelling songwriting. Time and patience will tell, I think; certainly not a huge step down from WTDMS.

Another modern act that has been getting kudos here and there. Not sure I'm completely convinced yet, but they certainly have something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTlaabiNrqE


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