Metal Reviews

I'll post my collection some day when I have 5 free hours, and you'll see all of the "underground" shit like Sabbath, Dio, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Megadeth, Pantera, etc that I have. I listen to all kinds of shit, just not poser Metal like Kittie.

Thanks for proving my point.

I'm not concerned with what you listen to. It's music. It's subjective all around. I don't like black metal much, nor death metal, but you don't see me going around getting pissed at people for listening to it. But I'm accused of actually liking Kittie in order to start fights! Hahaha. People actually get mad at me for liking things that aren't all underground. THAT is ridiculous.

When have I ever gotten mad at you for listening to Kittie? I joke with you, but I've never been mad. I just hate how anytime someone doesn't like a mainstream band, you say, "it's because it's mainstream." Plus, the original post wasn't directed at you per se, I've encountered lots of people like that. I'm sorry I don't let MTV2 decide my tastes for me(again, not directed at you). Don't be so egotistical and think everytime I say something like that I mean you.

Well, this wasn't necessarily about me, even though I used me as an example. Nor was I singling you out. When I say things like "it seems like you don't like it because it's mainstream" it's because what I read makes it seem that way. When someone says, "that bands sucks, they're mallcore with all their Hot Topic fans!" I find that annoying. To me that screams "I dislike that band because of things outside of the music." I wish people would just say "I don't like that" and explain themselves, once they bring in outside elements it tells me it's not really the music they dislike.

Those are the only instances where I have said that. And yes, some people actually take offense to the fact that I listen to Kittie and 311 and other non-underground, mainstream or semi-mainstream bands. That's unfortunate.

Everything besides the music for the most part

also why do you hate bands who name their albums "i" or "ii"... I mean its just the album title...

Because it's lazy. If different bands kept naming their albums Life Is Peachy over and over again wouldn't it get annoying? I mean, why not just call all the songs track 1, track 2, track 3, etc., if they're going to be obvious and uncreative they might as well go all out.

Well songs have names that the bands call them while they're practicing, like "let's play Jesus's Railroad", but they dont really need that for an album =)

Right, but I still think it's dumb. :roll: I think a title of an album and a song should reflect something, not just the sequential number of the album in the band's catalog.

Led Zeppelin > Eyesore.

Nuff said.

oh, secret tracks bug me. this is the 472nd century, we don't fall for those any more. they make you think you're heading up to an epic song when in reality you're getting two four minute songs and twelve minutes of silence. blargh

Here are some of the things that bug me.

1. Rereleases with "Bonus Tracks" - Seriously, if you already own the album, why should you pay another twenty dollars for the exact same album with a couple "remixes" and/or demos at the end that you'll listen to may be once out of curiosity and then never listen to again? The worst is Roadrunner's reissue of Roots (by Sepultura) that has AN ENTIRE SECOND CD devoted to demos/outtakes (in addition to the main album). Total waste of cash.

2. Metal fans that think a band sucks if they ever dare to write a ballad or soften their style a little - People mellow out with age. It's a simple fact. Even heavy metal musicians do after a certain point. It's really pathetic that so many metal fans use the "angry/aggressive music" they listen to as a way to boost their egos, and then are afraid of looking like sissies if they listen to something "soft." Hence the stereotype that metalheads are all angsty teenagers.

3. Bands that have to do a fricken Blabbermouth interview/rant every three days - Haven't you already said what you have to say? If you keep doing all these interviews, you know everybody's going to get tired of hearing you speak. And then fewer people may listen to your music. I'm talking to you, Anthrax.

4. Contract Fulfillment Albums - Just as the title sounds: Albums that were made just to fulfill a record contract. Such as Anthrax's Live - The Island Years, Testament's Return To The Apocolyptic City, Iced Earth's The Blessed And The Damned, etc. No heart put into them, mostly either live duplicates of studio tracks or shoddy remixes of older songs, total wastes of space and money.

5. Metal fans that automatically turn on a band if they dare to have a hint of nu-metal influence - Yes, I know you hate nu-metal with a passion. But is even a small hint of nu-metal influence any reason to automatically turn on a band? Get this, some people even called Tempo Of The Damned "nu-metal/wiggercore" just because it had modern production and a slightly Pantera-ish sound. Putting some nu-metal influence into an album does not necessarily equate to selling out. It's possible that may be the band simply (*gasp*) likes nu-metal and faithfully uses it as an influence. I'm in total agreement with Eyesore that the whole anti-everything-mainstream attitude is just as stupid as the anti-everything-underground attitude. So just shut up and enjoy the music rather than worrying about how "nu" it may sound.

I'm sure there are plenty more. But these are all I can think of right now.

well, if someone dislikes nu-metal and their favourite band starts showing the signs don't you think it's appropriate for the fan to despair just a little?

I don't put much stock in truly aggressive music - I think it's the worst element of sludge, and my BM taste centres around foresty folk for example - so you can't use your ego straw man

here's another thing I hate about the music world: there seems to be three tiers of fandom. one is the surface skimmer who likes pop and a small sample of bands from other genres, still struggling to find their taste. the third is the aficionado who puts effort into uncovering new obscure bands because they like the music.

the second tier is the opinionated idiot, he who has previously delved but is now trying to justify his questionable taste by mocking tier one and three..

No offense, but some of you take these things waaaaaay too personally. I wasn't refering to you specifically or anybody here for that matter. These are just things I've noticed with a lot of metal fans.

Being a little weary of a band going nu-metal is one thing. But completely turning on a band just for downtuning their guitars or cleaning up their production on one album (and trust me, there are metal fans who do this - ridiculous as it may sound) is whole different ballgame. I've seen truly excellent albums like Tempo Of The Damned and Train Of Thought accused of being "nu-metal" with no real legitimate reasoning whatsoever (okay, so may be Tempo... had 2004 production rather than 1984 production and Train...'s Honor Thy Father sounded a little "rappy" in places - whoop-de-doo.). Plus, there ARE other reasons for implementing nu-metal into metal music other than just to sell out (ie. may be the band just likes nu-metal and thus uses it as an influence). A lot of metal fans will say that if a band implements some nu-metal influences, it's just because they want to appeal to the mainstream. Probably because their nu-metal bias is so bad that they have a hard time even understanding the possibility of anybody outside the MTV crowd actually liking it. I myself don't really like nu-metal (save for System of A Down and some Soulfly), but if my favorite band implements some nu influences into their music, I'm certainly not going to hold it against them as long as the music is still solid/enjoyable.

As for the "aggressive music" thing, again: Not directed at you personally. But just some metal fans in general.

I don't mind secret tracks, but what I hate is a secret tracks connected to the last track in the CD. You get 20 minutes of silence and then a hidden song. Often the hidden track isn't all that great, but now if you ever put this album on shuffle you're subjected to 20 minutes of silence! It makes little sense since you're listening to the album because you want to hear music not silence!

Also, a hidden track that is track 99 on the CD is lame (Danzig did this, right?). Who wants 82 tracks that are 2 seconds long? Again, this sucks if you put it on shuffle. If you're going to include a hidden track, just make it like track 13, after the last listed track (12). Also, include the name of the song somewhere in the CD booklet!

By the way, I like Testament's Return To The Apocolyptic City EP! =) And Iced Earth's The Blessed And The Damned was Century Media trying to cash in on Iced Earth's popularity. It wasn't a contract fullfillment, it was Century Media exercising their right.

I'm talking about real music. yeah and I love pantera!
Dumb-fuck!

So basically you decide what is considered "real music." How is that not close minded?

Not-smart-poopy-pants-fuck!!

There's something ironic about this...

Fucking newbies. If I was a mod....

I remember being in a bar with a jukebox, and I had spend £2 on putting 7 awesome songs into the queue. Turns out I never actually got to hear them because someone had put Nirvana's "Something in the Way" on first. Queue a long period of silence. :evil:

Crappy packaging. My copy of Denim and Leather by Saxon has no booklet, only a cover slip! How cheap can you get?