Classic albums that really are classic

rio · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:42 pm

It probably did have greater influence, I guess because of where and when it was released, but WB has such as Rock n Roll vibe to it that is completely unique. Some of the tracks of it have pretty much endless replay value, which is something that's pretty hard to achieve.

Caligula_K · **Joined:** Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:56 pm **Posts:** 3561

OldSchool wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Best Priest=

Painkiller/Stained Class.

One spawned a new wave of speed metal, the other NWOBHM. Both completely quality from start to finish.

Oh yes, and Defenders is my third favourite. Just some amazing songs on there.

You're forgetting SWOD. The first heavy metal album, historically speaking. Also a collection of some of metal greatest songs to this day.

Oh yes, SWOD is easily their most influential (and my fourth favourite) album. I was just mentioning my two favourites.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:37 pm

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:35 am

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

Caldogg · **Joined:** Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:28 am **Posts:** 764

No album is flawless, but:

Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Death - Symbolic
Cathedral - The Carnival Bizarre
AC/DC - Back In Black
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Led Zeppelin - IV
Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:23 am

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus

6 tracks of great doom metal. This album has no filler whatsoever imo.

Quote:

Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger

That album just never did it for me after listening to it only a couple of times. unlike 'Blaze in the Northern Sky', I just never got into it.

Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
the first 4 SYL albums
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell

Dylan@Metalreviews · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:34 am

How do you guys feel about Morbid Angel's "Covenant" being labeled a classic?

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:52 am

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

unknownkadath666 · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:15 pm

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

Mintrude · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:53 pm

Quote:

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

It's still damn near impossible to get now.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:08 pm

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

Trading and recorded tapes was the shit back then, that how it got spread. Sarcofago and Von releases probably didn't get out of their country at all and we know how the scene was like back then in the USA and Brazil and how Norway changed after Deathcrush.

noodles · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:49 pm

I thought this thread was about classic albums that were really good, amount influence aside :O

Dago · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:33 pm

Autopsy-Severed Survival

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:03 pm

noodles wrote:

I thought this thread was about classic albums that were really good, amount influence aside :O

why?

JÃ¼rgen · **Posted:** Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:18 am

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

Trading and recorded tapes was the shit back then, that how it got spread. Sarcofago and Von releases probably didn't get out of their country at all and we know how the scene was like back then in the USA and Brazil and how Norway changed after Deathcrush.

Unknownkadath definitely has a point. Even though i think that Deathcrush is a killer album, it wasn't really anything new. And bands like VON and Sarcofago (some of Mayhem's main influences, hah) did indeed have more influence on the scene back then. They spread at least just as much tapes, probably more.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:49 am

Jürgen wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

Trading and recorded tapes was the shit back then, that how it got spread. Sarcofago and Von releases probably didn't get out of their country at all and we know how the scene was like back then in the USA and Brazil and how Norway changed after Deathcrush.

Unknownkadath definitely has a point. Even though i think that Deathcrush is a killer album, it wasn't really anything new. And bands like VON and Sarcofago (some of Mayhem's main influences, hah) did indeed have more influence on the scene back then. They spread at least just as much tapes, probably more.

Deathcrush - 1987
Satanic Blood - 1992

It's like saying Slayer was influenced by Slipknot. The dates don't match. Maybe in their later times, but that's irrelevant to the point isn't it?

Deathcrush is older and heavier than a lot of the stuff people throw around as inluences. This very first (real) release of Norwegian black metal has to be more influential than, say, In the Sign of evil or something.

JÃ¼rgen · **Posted:** Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:11 am

Kathaarian wrote:

Jürgen wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

unknownkadath666 wrote:

Kathaarian wrote:

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky, Transilvanian Hunger
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Deathcrush isn't really all that good. There are earlier and dirtier bands before mayhem made this album. As far as i see the only reason it is classic is because its mayhem.

I don't like it either but you can't deny the influence. There were dirtier stuff but this was the most extreme thing of its time, which paved the way to a lot of bands.

I don't know, When it came out no one could get a copy because it was all limited so I don't know that it paved the way for many people until its subsequent re-issues. if we are going on Influence, that would make releases by sarcofago and VON classic too.

Trading and recorded tapes was the shit back then, that how it got spread. Sarcofago and Von releases probably didn't get out of their country at all and we know how the scene was like back then in the USA and Brazil and how Norway changed after Deathcrush.

Unknownkadath definitely has a point. Even though i think that Deathcrush is a killer album, it wasn't really anything new. And bands like VON and Sarcofago (some of Mayhem's main influences, hah) did indeed have more influence on the scene back then. They spread at least just as much tapes, probably more.

Deathcrush - 1987
Satanic Blood - 1992

It's like saying Slayer was influenced by Slipknot. The dates don't match. Maybe in their later times, but that's irrelevant to the point isn't it?

Deathcrush is older and heavier than a lot of the stuff people throw around as inluences. This very first (real) release of Norwegian black metal has to be more influential than, say, In the Sign of evil or something.

Fuck, haha, i got pwned. But really, shit like INRI, In the Sign of Evil, the Hellhammer demos etc. were a bigger influence on BM/DM than Deathcrush on a large scale back in the day. Mayhem's definitive work that took them to fame was DMDS. Deathcrush is a good dirty old-school death/black metal album, but i wouldn't really call it classic, if we're talking about influence. It was pretty UG stuff back then.

EDIT: I just re-read your post, and of course i agree that Deathcrush was the first major step of the Norwegian BM explosion, no doubt about it.

It's just that to me Norway has never been any sort of Mecca for BM. Aside from Mayhem, Burzum and Darkthrone, i've never really been a fan of their scene.

Kathaarian · **Posted:** Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:28 am