Jürgen wrote:
Zad wrote:
Jürgen wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
NS vs Satanism
Black metal is satanic, period. However, satanism and NS are in no way mutually exclusive.
True. And paganism fits in there somewhere...
Pagan religions all have their own "dark sides", so to speak, so paganism definitely has a place in black metal.
This verse from Necromantia's Ancient Pride comes to mind:
You Came And Slaughtered Odin
You Came And Murdered Zeus
Our Gods Became Your Satan
And Satan Became Our GodBut a band that promotes paganism isn't necessarily BM. The foundation of black metal is satanism (which can be manifest in many forms, sometimes unobvious).
i don't think dark sides have anything to do with satanism. It it true that most black metal in the beginning was all about satanism, it's not like that nowadays. Depression, melancholy, nature f.ex has nothing to do with satanism, unless you think depression is the work of satan
anywho.. i was referring to the struggle bewteen of ideologies, wheither it's about lyrics, how black metal should be played or if it is to stay underground etc... those who worship satan in their lyrics think those who worship satan as a symbol are gay and weak ( LaVey) etc. - that's why i wasn't surprised that some look down on JI.
Just take the good old Velvet Cacoon who looked down on most black metal bands, including satanism and NS.
but if you think only black metal with satanic content is black metal, that's your opinion.
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