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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:19 am 
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the evolution of metal could take two different paths, it will either progressively lose touch with the elements which make metal unique as metal bands struggle to survive in a world where only musicians making shallow music can achieve any significant recognition or this trend of popish metal bands goes away like it did with glam when thrash took over the world and our great genre maintains it's dignity


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RelentlessOblivion wrote:
the evolution of metal could take two different paths, it will either progressively lose touch with the elements which make metal unique as metal bands struggle to survive in a world where only musicians making shallow music can achieve any significant recognition or this trend of popish metal bands goes away like it did with glam when thrash took over the world and our great genre maintains it's dignity
or it does both as it's always done.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:57 am 
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in the past though it wasn't even close to this bad, I mean I really have no time for any of the glam or hair metal bands that sprung up all over the early to mid eighties but the music they made was still metal, these metalcore bands now completely bastardise the music, it's worse then the nu metal epidemic and I personally hope that something comes along and puts a stop to it, keep metal metal, and none of this really makes any sense I blame it on my brain being completely overworked this week


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:12 pm 
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I don't see how Metalcore is worse than the Nu-Metal epidemic?

Metalcore is still mainly metal. There's less hardcore in it then many Thrash bands of the 1980s or Groove Metal bands of the 1990s.

It's probably the most extreme form of popular metal too (other than Slipknot who didn't really fit the Nu-metal mold either).

Nu-metal was mainly alternative rock or Faith No More worship with next to no metal bits except down tuned guitars.


As for keeping metal metal, plenty of bands are doing it.


I think it's definitely a case of your brain being overworked. :P


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:41 pm 
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all the metalcore I've heard sounds sterile and predictable here's the forumula: generic melodeath verse with alternating harsh and clean vocals (genereally both done poorly), pop chorus repeat until three chord breakdown, simple solo, verse, chorus, end of song it's this desperate attempt to create metal appealing to the mainstream that I despise, metal never was nor will ever be mainstream


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:32 am 
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Totally agree that Metalcore for the most part is generic and predictable.

But then so were most Thrash in the 1980s and Death Metal bands in the early 1990s. So is most Power Metal.

This is why people still talk about Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Anthrax, Overkill, Kreator etc or Morbid Angel, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Death, Suffocation etc.

Basically these guys came, they created and everyone else followed. It happens in all genres.

As for sterile sound, I find this to be endemic in modern metal. I suspect it's got something to do with digital recording.



I don't give a crap anymore about metal's popularity or even where the genre is trending. I like shit I like. I'm on the look out for new bands though even though "new" might mean old bands that I never used to like or haven't heard before.


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