Genres

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:22 pm

Adam wrote:

ganeshaRules wrote:

Well, they are really different genres, ok. But Napalm Death & Nasum are in the same genre than Death & Cynic, or Cannibal corpse, and them all appear under Death genre (with some melodeath bands).

Yeah, that's why I think we need to add Grind. Maybe Melodeath and Tech Death too, perhaps?

Melodic death is in the list... but I supose it was added after some bands were tagged as death

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:30 pm

ganeshaRules wrote:

Melodic death is in the list... but I supose it was added after some bands were tagged as death

Ah, brain fart! I'll go and fix those now.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:30 pm

Tech Death as well as Death? Meh, if we're going to start including subgenres why not add Classic Rock in? Brutal Death? Industrial Death?

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:51 pm

Goat wrote:

Tech Death as well as Death? Meh, if we're going to start including subgenres why not add Classic Rock in? Brutal Death? Industrial Death?

Yeah, I'm kind of lukewarm on adding Tech Death, but I do think Post-Rock and Grind (or Grindcore) need to be added.

If I was going to add subgenres to Death, I would stop at Tech Death and Brutal Death personally, but I'm not so sure we shouldn't just leave it at Death only, now that I moved all the melodeath bands out of there.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Gotta keep things simple.
Subgenres are bullshit.

Dago · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:01 pm

Haha seriously Stefan i didnt remember you being so vulgar in your posts!
You sound like a truck driver now. :lol:

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Dago wrote:

Haha seriously Stefan i didnt remember you being so vulgar in your posts!
You sound like a truck driver now. :lol:

Me?

Maybe that's Walnut bad influence... :unsure:

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:33 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Subgenres are bullshit.

I agree with this mostly, but I think the doom ones are valid since each is so distinct. Its important to separate the likes of Candlemass from the likes of Thergothon, in my opinion.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Adam wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Subgenres are bullshit.

I agree with this mostly, but I think the doom ones are valid since each is so distinct. Its important to separate the likes of Candlemass from the likes of Thergothon, in my opinion.

I'd put Thergothon in the Death Metal category.

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:43 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

I'd put Thergothon in the Death Metal category.

Now you lost me. Then we'd have Cryptopsy and Thergothon showing up in the same search. You think that's accurate?!

The Evil Dead · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:43 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Gotta keep things simple.
Subgenres are bullshit.

But how are they bullshit? I realize that all of these bands are within the same genre essentially, but yet so many are radically different than one another. I think sub-genres clearly help separate the different styles within the genre, and I certainly appreciate that they are catagorizes in a very in depth way in general.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

The Evil Dead wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Gotta keep things simple.
Subgenres are bullshit.

But how are they bullshit? I realize that all of these bands are within the same genre essentially, but yet so many are radically different than one another. I think sub-genres clearly help separate the different styles within the genre, and I certainly appreciate that they are catagorizes in a very in depth way in general.

I think the genre tags are for the lazy people who don't read reviews. They just read the tag and the rate... I hate lazy people. :mad:

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:52 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

I think the genre tags are for the lazy people who don't read reviews. They just read the tag and the rate... I hate lazy people. :mad:

A bit cynical, don't you think? What about people who genuinely want to explore a genre they are new to?

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Adam wrote:

Lucifer's Son wrote:

I think the genre tags are for the lazy people who don't read reviews. They just read the tag and the rate... I hate lazy people. :mad:

A bit cynical, don't you think? What about people who genuinely want to explore a genre they are new to?

Do they need MR to do this? What is Metal Archives for damnit!?

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:02 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

Do they need MR to do this? What is Metal Archives for damnit!?

Guess I didn't realize they had the market covered. :rolleyes:

So you're saying that by having an accurate search engine, whereby readers can find similar artists to those in a review they enjoyed, we are enabling laziness? Are you ever satisfied?

The Evil Dead · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:04 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

I think the genre tags are for the lazy people who don't read reviews. They just read the tag and the rate... I hate lazy people. :mad:

What do you mean? People give albums a better rating just because of how it's tagged? Or are you saying that people skip over reviews albums that aren't tagged with something they're interested in?

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:12 pm

Lucifer's Son wrote:

I think the genre tags are for the lazy people who don't read reviews. They just read the tag and the rate... I hate lazy people. :mad:

But we're not talking about genres in the review, we're talking about genres in the search page...

They're different things.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:16 pm

The current system works fine. You want Death Metal, search for that, and then explore all the subgenres as stated in the reviews! Simple.

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