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| Author: | stevelovesmoonspell [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | 9/11 'truth' |
What do you think of the 9/11 truth movement? Do you think it was an 'inside job'? If you've researched their points do you agree with them? Do you think 9/11 was the work of our government? Just curious everyone. |
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| Author: | Legacy Of The Night [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:51 am ] |
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It's absolute garbage that's based on the bizzare messiah complex of the theorists rather than actual fact. |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:57 am ] |
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I do not know what caused it really. There are a lot of unanswered questions that officials have refused to address as well as glaring contradictions of the report. The government severely underfunded the investigation, did not follow anything that leads where they didn't want to go and took people at their word without following up on it. I couldn't say there are any compelling answers to who is responsible for it at all. There are a whole lot of questions that we simply won't investigate, so answers are unlikely to come. I don't feel like getting into the specifics of it all. It's out there if you want to get into it yourself. |
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| Author: | rio [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:36 am ] |
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Sounds like bollocks to me. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:08 pm ] |
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Of course it's bollocks. Penn & Teller are generally a bit libertarian for me, but, well, like they say here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I And here's Chomsky on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzGd0t8v-d4 |
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| Author: | traptunderice [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:26 pm ] |
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Penn and Teller can't tell their ass from their head when it comes to advocating anarcho-capitalism but they debunk bullshit really well as I think this stuff is. Don't worry, Adveser will be on your side. |
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| Author: | Kathaarian [ Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:31 pm ] |
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I do not care about conspiracy theories at all. I only believe what I see and what seems logical to me. However, The American government have failed to answer too many questions about the incident and that's why people got into such wild theories. But of course, as it is with all of this kind of controversial issues, it will be just another page in history with a lot of unanswered questions. |
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| Author: | Adveser [ Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:24 am ] |
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The problem with penn and teller is they think asking any questions at all seem to indicate you are somehow in league with irrational people that make irrational faith based arguments. If I were a married man and my wife came home 4 hours late smeeling like whiskey, I wouldn't believe her story that she was shopping. They take they logical conclusion that since I was not there she must be right and that any evidence to the contrary is just bullshit speculation. This is the main problem they have, even though I agree with them a lot of the time otherwise. They constantly assert that because any one claim taken to it's absolute extreme is invalid, the question doesn't deserve an answer. The slippery-slope logical fallacy. Because the 9/11 commission was not an independent organization and was severely budget locked does not mean the government is responsible, but that is something they would claim everyone who asks "why" would assume. That kind of problem deserves an answer and asking it does not assume anything. They think questioning convenient or official answers is fishing for faith in something that can't be proven. Like whoever has the most money or the loudest speaker someone has the most proof. |
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:44 pm ] |
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Kathaarian wrote: I do not care about conspiracy theories at all. I only believe what I see and what seems logical to me. However, The American government have failed to answer too many questions about the incident and that's why people got into such wild theories. But of course, as it is with all of this kind of controversial issues, it will be just another page in history with a lot of unanswered questions.
What he said. The whole 9/11 Inside Job theory was I think more-or-less popularized by the Zeitgeist movie a few years ago. And while it's true that The Government has neglected a lot of important questions and underfunded the whole 9/11 Investigation, the extremist idea that it was an "Inside Job" has been refuted so many times, it's unbelievable. |
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| Author: | Goat [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:57 pm ] |
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These 9/11 truthers are batshit. They're ignoring the real conspiracy - that the US government has invisible warships with which it carries out terrorist attacks, teleporting people through walls and fusing them inside the ground. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment Quote: One test, on July 22, 1943, resulted in the Eldridge being rendered almost completely invisible, with some witnesses reporting a "greenish fog" appearing in its place. However, crew members supposedly complained of severe nausea afterwards. Also, it is said that when the ship reappeared, some sailors were embedded in the metal structures of the ship, including one sailor who ended up on a deck level below that where he began, and had his hand embedded in the steel hull of the ship.[5] At that point, it is said that the experiment was altered at the request of the Navy, with the new objective being solely to render the Eldridge invisible to radar.
NEVER 4GET INVISI-DAY - 6/22/43 |
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| Author: | Ness [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:14 pm ] |
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lol On a different note - http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =125186382 I think South Park should make a sequel to 'Make Love, Not Warcraft.' |
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| Author: | stevelovesmoonspell [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:09 pm ] |
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Goat wrote: These 9/11 truthers are batshit. They're ignoring the real conspiracy - that the US government has invisible warships with which it carries out terrorist attacks, teleporting people through walls and fusing them inside the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment Quote: One test, on July 22, 1943, resulted in the Eldridge being rendered almost completely invisible, with some witnesses reporting a "greenish fog" appearing in its place. However, crew members supposedly complained of severe nausea afterwards. Also, it is said that when the ship reappeared, some sailors were embedded in the metal structures of the ship, including one sailor who ended up on a deck level below that where he began, and had his hand embedded in the steel hull of the ship.[5] At that point, it is said that the experiment was altered at the request of the Navy, with the new objective being solely to render the Eldridge invisible to radar. NEVER 4GET INVISI-DAY - 6/22/43 I've heard about that all of my life, and I have to say if I saw a sailor embedded in a ship; I'd shit myself. I wonder if it could happen however Zad, what do you think? |
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| Author: | Goat [ Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:12 pm ] |
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I've seen a picture of a victim; nasty shit. |
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| Author: | Karmakosmonaut [ Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:17 am ] |
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Goat wrote: I've seen a picture of a victim; nasty shit.
Pics or it didn't happen. |
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