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Who will/would you pick?
Obama 74%  74%  [ 29 ]
Hilary 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
McCain 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
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I'm not avoiding that fact. Like I said, I'd rather have a principled Labour party in opposition than an unprincipled one in government. The fact you are ignoring, IMO is that whilst sure, the Tories would be worse than this government, if Labour gets in in 2010, THEY will be worse than this government, as well. You have to think long term, and send a message that Britain needs a mainstream leftwing party. Even if that means getting a Tory term.

Of course, there are flaws in this strategy- mainly the possibility that the current crop of New labour politicians will be too fucking stupid to realise what they need to do.


It's all up in the air, really. Predicting what politics here will be like in two years or so is madness.

And it's amazing how stupid politician are. Reading all these interviews with the likes of Prescott and Lord Levy shows you just how much they're living by the seats of their pants. They haven't got a clue how to run the country! Winning an election doesn't give you some divine right to rule.

The answer is, of course, to burn churchiz.


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Obama will win, and Hillary will become his Vice-President. And the war against Muslims will rage on. And you and I must die. From the eternal sea he rises. Creating armies on either shore. Turning man against his brother. Till man exists no more.


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and Hillary will become his Vice-President.
Umm no?


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and Hillary will become his Vice-President.
Umm no?


Alright -- be that way.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
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and Hillary will become his Vice-President.
Umm no?


Alright -- be that way.


That will never happen because it is contrary to her agenda. At this point, she's toast and she knows it. She will not win the nomination, so she is trying to drag this out as long as humanly possible to give McCain the best opportunity to win. Then, if he does, ol' Hillary can ride in her white horse in 2012 and run against him to save us from his tyrannic ways.

She is the worst kind of politician.


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Why is the US presidency relevant to Puerto Rico? I don't recall that being part of the US :S.


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Why is the US presidency relevant to Puerto Rico? I don't recall that being part of the US :S.


Well, its not a state, but it is owned by the US and is closely linked in many ways politically, so it makes sense to me. Look it up and you'll see what I mean.


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There are other little places that get to vote but aren't states also... i think? Guam is one, possibly.


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Adam wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
and Hillary will become his Vice-President.
Umm no?


Alright -- be that way.


That will never happen because it is contrary to her agenda. At this point, she's toast and she knows it. She will not win the nomination, so she is trying to drag this out as long as humanly possible to give McCain the best opportunity to win. Then, if he does, ol' Hillary can ride in her white horse in 2012 and run against him to save us from his tyrannic ways.

She is the worst kind of politician.


So is George W. Bush, but he somehow won the elections in 2004 now didn't he?

There's more at work than you think, sir.


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So obama won the democrats then?


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metal_xxx wrote:
So obama won the democrats then?


Not yet... But its pretty clear he's going to, and everyone seems to think that by Tuesday, he'll finally have enough pledged votes to do it. About goddamn time.


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So obama won the democrats then?


Not yet... But its pretty clear he's going to, and everyone seems to think that by Tuesday, he'll finally have enough pledged votes to do it. About goddamn time.


According to multiple news outlets, he's got enough delegates now, so he's the nominee. Now everyone is waiting for Hil-Rod to gracefully bow out and start pining for the VP nod. This, of course, kills my "Hillary's agenda" theory of a few posts ago, so I'll just go ahead and admit that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. Oh, and Hillary still sucks.


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Adam wrote:
Brahm_K wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
So obama won the democrats then?


Not yet... But its pretty clear he's going to, and everyone seems to think that by Tuesday, he'll finally have enough pledged votes to do it. About goddamn time.


According to multiple news outlets, he's got enough delegates now, so he's the nominee. Now everyone is waiting for Hil-Rod to gracefully bow out and start pining for the VP nod. This, of course, kills my "Hillary's agenda" theory of a few posts ago, so I'll just go ahead and admit that I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about. Oh, and Hillary still sucks.


Right you guys are!

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5it5 ... EGCX6ZzT6w

Now the party really needs to pull together. Unfortunately, Clinton doesn't seem to be willing to help in that process

"Clinton, however, signalled she was not yet ready to hand her army of supporters over to her rival, congratulating him on an "extraordinary" race but refusing to formally conceding defeat.

"Now the question is, where do we go from here, and given how far we've come and where we need to go as a party, it's a question I don't take lightly," Clinton said.

"This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight," she said, in an eloquent speech framing her never-say-die campaign, but hinting she still believed she was the best potential president."

I was never one of those people who disliked Clinton. Over the past few months, I decided that I liked Obama more, but I wouldn't have been upset if she had won. Now she's just pissing me off. Its been clear she wasn't going to win for a good long while, but she continually weakens the party by refusing to entertain the prospect of stepping down, even when Obama has secured the nomination. This was her night to make a gracious speech, admit defeat and help mend the party, and in the process, perhaps become vice president. Instead her response was petty and delusional, and its quite disappointing. [/i]


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Maybe she's setting the scene for a spectacular suicide, with a note saying 'Obama did it'.


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I know some funneh captioned pics of Obama like that one there but some of you might get offended.


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Do sent it anyways... It's a metal forum damnit! PC is never an option... :wink:


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