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Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:39 am

Whoa, Obama's banned torture?! That'll be embarassing for him when it comes out that they carry on doing it anyways.

rio · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:43 am

Just got a text message about the SWP doing an occupation at my uni, today.... don't know which room they are going to occupy. I think they are just meeting and looking round til they find an empty one then locking themselves in it. Not going with them as have too much work to do and don't see what it would accomplish.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:08 pm

rio wrote:

Just got a text message about the SWP doing an occupation at my uni, today.... don't know which room they are going to occupy. I think they are just meeting and looking round til they find an empty one then locking themselves in it. Not going with them as have too much work to do and don't see what it would accomplish.

As much as I respect the fundamental tenets of socialism, I think those silly commies do take it over the top a little. What are they protesting?

rio · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:31 pm

Goat wrote:

rio wrote:

Just got a text message about the SWP doing an occupation at my uni, today.... don't know which room they are going to occupy. I think they are just meeting and looking round til they find an empty one then locking themselves in it. Not going with them as have too much work to do and don't see what it would accomplish.

As much as I respect the fundamental tenets of socialism, I think those silly commies do take it over the top a little. What are they protesting?

No more arms to Israel, end the blockade of Gaza, and something else related... I forget what...

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:02 pm

How'd it go?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ja ... -abortions

Obama is making a very good start... this won't have got a great deal of press, but it's very important for people in foreign, poor countries.

rio · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:22 pm

Don't think it made much of a splash at leeds uni. There's one going on at Leeds Met at the mo I think.

There was one that finished at London School of Economics, which apparently got its demands, inc. scholarships for Gazans and stuff.

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:29 pm

rio wrote:

Don't think it made much of a splash at leeds uni. There's one going on at Leeds Met at the mo I think.

There was one that finished at London School of Economics, which apparently got its demands, inc. scholarships for Gazans and stuff.

Good good. Hope you've complained to the BBC about not showing that advert, too.

rio · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:46 pm

heh, anti-Israel bias indeed.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:56 pm

Obama's first week seems to be going pretty well. All three things passed are pretty common sense, rational moves which would've never passed the last eight years.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:17 am

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01 ... rss_latest

Helping innocent bystanders, caught in the crossfire between a superpower and a terrorist government, is being biased and impartial.

Goat · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:46 am

traptunderice wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/25/bbc.gaza.advert/index.html?eref=rss_latest

Helping innocent bystanders, caught in the crossfire between a superpower and a terrorist government, is being biased and impartial.

That's what I was referring to above. The BBC have become serious pussys after Sachsgate, afraid of offending anyone in case the Daily Fail will start a campaign. This is the result, hopefully people will still donate plenty.

rio · **Posted:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:59 pm

Yeah, heard the Director General on Radio 4 this morning... I bet he wished he'd just shown the damn thing now.

traptunderice · **Posted:** Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:34 am

Goat wrote:

traptunderice wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/01/25/bbc.gaza.advert/index.html?eref=rss_latest

Helping innocent bystanders, caught in the crossfire between a superpower and a terrorist government, is being biased and impartial.

That's what I was referring to above. The BBC have become serious pussys after Sachsgate, afraid of offending anyone in case the Daily Fail will start a campaign. This is the result, hopefully people will still donate plenty.

Somehow I completely missed it.

Thomas · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:17 am

Just read an artice surrounding the murder of two-year old "Baby Grace",,, Stuff like that makes me sick to my stomach, and if there are any people deserving death-penalties it's those who kill an innocent child.

"Her last words before she was beaten to death were "I Love You, Mom. She was killed because she didn't want to say Please or Yes Sir."

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:10 am

metal_xxx wrote:

Just read an artice surrounding the murder of two-year old "Baby Grace",,, Stuff like that makes me sick to my stomach, and if there are any people deserving death-penalties it's those who kill an innocent child.

"Her last words before she was beaten to death were "I Love You, Mom. She was killed because she didn't want to say Please or Yes Sir."

Dude, how fuckin' long ago was that? Children die all the time and the media either cover it up or highlight it depending on their bias. Focusing on one because apparently it supposedly said something cute just negates the ones that didn't, and died anyways.

Thomas · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:21 am

Happened in 07.. I'm just reacting on the fact that the mother was only 17-18 years old at the time. Killing children should be rewarded with the strictest punishment there is.. It's different.. In my opinion at least.

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:29 am

metal_xxx wrote:

Happened in 07.. I'm just reacting on the fact that the mother was only 17-18 years old at the time. Killing children should be rewarded with the strictest punishment there is.. It's different.. In my opinion at least.

Strictest punishment there is for someone only 17-18 at the time?

traptunderice · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:30 am

metal_xxx wrote:

Happened in 07.. I'm just reacting on the fact that the mother was only 17-18 years old at the time. Killing children should be rewarded with the strictest punishment there is.. It's different.. In my opinion at least.

But why is it different? If anything they have no one who depends on them like parents, family or teachers.

Thomas · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:32 am

Got ahead of myself, sorry... Heavy Therapy at least...

But generally speaking, yes.

Goat · **Posted:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:51 am

I thoguht Norwegians were quite liberal when it came to that sort of thing. Didn't you have a case where some kindergarden children killed a classmate, and then they were reabsorbed back into the class? A similar case in England had calls for public lynchings, and they were sent to a correctional instititution (ie prison for kids, pretty darn miserable places from what I've heard).

In other news:

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