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Weak Scouser slime! :x


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http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

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Football gods don't like Brits. That's the only explanation I got seeing how the best football is being played in England but the teams and the national team don't win anything internationally.


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http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

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Weak Scouser slime! :x


HEY!!!!!! :evil:


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http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

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Weak Scouser slime! :x


HEY!!!!!! :evil:


I'm sorry, but I got my hip knocked the other day, and it didn't send me into spasms. Over-paid bunch of wimps.


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rio wrote:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

Why god why?


Football gods don't like Brits. That's the only explanation I got seeing how the best football is being played in England but the teams and the national team don't win anything internationally.


It sounds minor at the moment, but often these things get worse... I'd much rather see England without a fit Rooney than without a fit Gerrard.


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rio wrote:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

Why god why?


Weak Scouser slime! :x


HEY!!!!!! :evil:


I'm sorry, but I got my hip knocked the other day, and it didn't send me into spasms. Over-paid bunch of wimps.

Its alright he plays for liverpool anyway, an Evertonian would be much harder! :P


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http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

Why god why?


Football gods don't like Brits. That's the only explanation I got seeing how the best football is being played in England but the teams and the national team don't win anything internationally.


It sounds minor at the moment, but often these things get worse... I'd much rather see England without a fit Rooney than without a fit Gerrard.

Things is we have plenty of options for the midfield, lennon carrick, downing, so gerrard is not a huge problem but not what any fan wants here either.


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Its alright he plays for liverpool anyway, an Evertonian would be much harder! :P


Yeah, you might have to actually hurt them. Like, with a toy lightsaber or something.


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stuartn15ted wrote:
rio wrote:
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rio wrote:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

Why god why?


Football gods don't like Brits. That's the only explanation I got seeing how the best football is being played in England but the teams and the national team don't win anything internationally.


It sounds minor at the moment, but often these things get worse... I'd much rather see England without a fit Rooney than without a fit Gerrard.

Things is we have plenty of options for the midfield, lennon carrick, downing, so gerrard is not a huge problem but not what any fan wants here either.


Hmm, we have a lot of average/competent players to replace the best in the world in his position :x


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Zad wrote:
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Its alright he plays for liverpool anyway, an Evertonian would be much harder! :P


Yeah, you might have to actually hurt them. Like, with a toy lightsaber or something.


To be fair, ex-Evertonian Wayne has apparently demonstrated superhuman healing powers.


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rio wrote:
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rio wrote:
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rio wrote:
http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1793159,00.html

Why god why?


Football gods don't like Brits. That's the only explanation I got seeing how the best football is being played in England but the teams and the national team don't win anything internationally.


It sounds minor at the moment, but often these things get worse... I'd much rather see England without a fit Rooney than without a fit Gerrard.

Things is we have plenty of options for the midfield, lennon carrick, downing, so gerrard is not a huge problem but not what any fan wants here either.


Hmm, we have a lot of average/competent players to replace the best in the world in his position :x

True. But move beckham into the middle and play lennon down the right and it doesn't look so bad. Or play carrick as a holding player and let lampard go forward. both good options.


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rio wrote:
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Its alright he plays for liverpool anyway, an Evertonian would be much harder! :P


Yeah, you might have to actually hurt them. Like, with a toy lightsaber or something.


To be fair, ex-Evertonian Wayne has apparently demonstrated superhuman healing powers.


As I said, Mancunian hookers.


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rio wrote:
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Its alright he plays for liverpool anyway, an Evertonian would be much harder! :P


Yeah, you might have to actually hurt them. Like, with a toy lightsaber or something.


To be fair, ex-Evertonian Wayne has apparently demonstrated superhuman healing powers.

would you mess with duncan ferguson? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Ferguson#Personal


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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.

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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.

Am i right in thinking becham plays in the middle for real?


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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.


I can see Beckham working as a defensive midfielder, but that would really negate his main purpose, ie to cross from the right wing. And let's face it, that's how we get most of our goals. I can't see Lennon making an impact against a really top side, and we can't afford to have anyone but Beckham in that position. As someone wrote in the Guardian- there seems to be a lot of people saying "hey, Lennon looked great against Bolton and Belarus B... He's going to murder Roberto Carlos". Without Gerrard I would either use Carrick or Hargreaves, or alternatively put Cole into the middle and use Downing on the left. But I wouldn't fancy using any of those options.


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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.


I can see Beckham working as a defensive midfielder, but that would really negate his main purpose, ie to cross from the right wing. And let's face it, that's how we get most of our goals. I can't see Lennon making an impact against a really top side, and we can't afford to have anyone but Beckham in that position. As someone wrote in the Guardian- there seems to be a lot of people saying "hey, Lennon looked great against Bolton and Belarus B... He's going to murder Roberto Carlos". Without Gerrard I would either use Carrick or Hargreaves, or alternatively put Cole into the middle and use Downing on the left. But I wouldn't fancy using any of those options.

I would personally go for carrick, that way, as you said we got beckhams cross's from the right, and with crouch in the middle it seems the most logical way to play.


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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.


I can see Beckham working as a defensive midfielder, but that would really negate his main purpose, ie to cross from the right wing. And let's face it, that's how we get most of our goals. I can't see Lennon making an impact against a really top side, and we can't afford to have anyone but Beckham in that position. As someone wrote in the Guardian- there seems to be a lot of people saying "hey, Lennon looked great against Bolton and Belarus B... He's going to murder Roberto Carlos". Without Gerrard I would either use Carrick or Hargreaves, or alternatively put Cole into the middle and use Downing on the left. But I wouldn't fancy using any of those options.

I would personally go for carrick, that way, as you said we got beckhams cross's from the right, and with crouch in the middle it seems the most logical way to play.


I guess so. I want to see Hargreaves though... You know, this guy is regarded as one of the most important players at one of Europe's best club sides... He just can't be as average as he always loks for England.


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i think Gerrard would be as important to England as he is to Liverpool.

as for playing beckham in the middle, he doesn't run or help out at the back like Gerrard does.


I can see Beckham working as a defensive midfielder, but that would really negate his main purpose, ie to cross from the right wing. And let's face it, that's how we get most of our goals. I can't see Lennon making an impact against a really top side, and we can't afford to have anyone but Beckham in that position. As someone wrote in the Guardian- there seems to be a lot of people saying "hey, Lennon looked great against Bolton and Belarus B... He's going to murder Roberto Carlos". Without Gerrard I would either use Carrick or Hargreaves, or alternatively put Cole into the middle and use Downing on the left. But I wouldn't fancy using any of those options.

I would personally go for carrick, that way, as you said we got beckhams cross's from the right, and with crouch in the middle it seems the most logical way to play.


I guess so. I want to see Hargreaves though... You know, this guy is regarded as one of the most important players at one of Europe's best club sides... He just can't be as average as he always loks for England.

Yeah, its strange, if he plays like that for BM then its hard to see why sevn picks him and also why he seems to like him so much. He has to be a lot better then what hes showing us.


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