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the caste of contemporary politicians, still high on their May '68 utopia
Are you fucking serious? Get this bullshit out of here.

Seriously, evidence of these radical politicians trying to force leftism down our throats? Multiculturalism is democracy's way of brushing over racism with some bullshit "everyone is accepted just ignore all the inequality" lies.


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Yes. Rather it is up to the caste of contemporary politicians, still high on their May '68 utopia, to act directly against the wishes of the largely conservative population and enforce the fairytale of multiculturalism upon them.


Equating a fairy tale of multiculturalism to not supporting laws which violate human rights, are idiotic and were proposed entirely due to racism and Islamiphobia= not so much


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How does that edict violate human rights? The Swiss muslims are still able to practice their religion, as only minarets are banned, not mosques.

Surprised to read you consider muslims a race, by the way.


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I've no idea what they thought they'd achieve by it. If there is genuinely a worry about listed buildings etc then singling minnarets out is a little :huh: - it is clearly the most serious thing they thought they could get away with. Reminds me of the times way back when Jews couldn't build synagogues higher than mosques and churches in the respective countries - it might not be the worst thing under the sun, but it's definitely a sign of bigotry and should raise the eyebrows of all honest folk.

To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the radical groups don't kick off about it - this is far more serious than a few cartoons.


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I've no idea what they thought they'd achieve by it. If there is genuinely a worry about listed buildings etc then singling minnarets out is a little :huh: - it is clearly the most serious thing they thought they could get away with. Reminds me of the times way back when Jews couldn't build synagogues higher than mosques and churches in the respective countries - it might not be the worst thing under the sun, but it's definitely a sign of bigotry and should raise the eyebrows of all honest folk.

To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the radical groups don't kick off about it - this is far more serious than a few cartoons.


I'm pretty sure the main motivation was a desire to preserve Swiss culture. The idea of minarets infringing on the panorama is understandably irritating, although I don't care about "Swiss culture".

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I've no idea what they thought they'd achieve by it. If there is genuinely a worry about listed buildings etc then singling minnarets out is a little :huh: - it is clearly the most serious thing they thought they could get away with. Reminds me of the times way back when Jews couldn't build synagogues higher than mosques and churches in the respective countries - it might not be the worst thing under the sun, but it's definitely a sign of bigotry and should raise the eyebrows of all honest folk.

To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the radical groups don't kick off about it - this is far more serious than a few cartoons.


I'm pretty sure the main motivation was a desire to preserve Swiss culture. The idea of minarets infringing on the panorama is understandably irritating, although I don't care about "Swiss culture".


How does a few (four at the moment, no?) pointy towers infringe on Swiss culture if, say, Jewish stars don't? What is Swiss culture - cuckoo clocks, chocolate, and Celtic Frost? Haven't they got enough Nazi gold to hide away from the grasping hands of holocaust survivors or something?


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Yeah, that's a pretty bullshit cover...


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I've no idea what they thought they'd achieve by it. If there is genuinely a worry about listed buildings etc then singling minnarets out is a little :huh: - it is clearly the most serious thing they thought they could get away with. Reminds me of the times way back when Jews couldn't build synagogues higher than mosques and churches in the respective countries - it might not be the worst thing under the sun, but it's definitely a sign of bigotry and should raise the eyebrows of all honest folk.

To be honest, I'll be disappointed if the radical groups don't kick off about it - this is far more serious than a few cartoons.


I'm pretty sure the main motivation was a desire to preserve Swiss culture. The idea of minarets infringing on the panorama is understandably irritating, although I don't care about "Swiss culture".


How does a few (four at the moment, no?) pointy towers infringe on Swiss culture if, say, Jewish stars don't? What is Swiss culture - cuckoo clocks, chocolate, and Celtic Frost? Haven't they got enough Nazi gold to hide away from the grasping hands of holocaust survivors or something?


Hey, that's not my excuse. Although I'd guess they feel it's a preventive measure. Furthermore, minarets are taller than Jewish stars. Although it could be argued that Judaism is much more part of Swiss culture than Islam. You know how many business are run by Jews?

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You know how many business are run by Jews?


You didn't. Surely not.

You did? Shit just got real.

COME ON THEN FRIDGE LIST ALL THE BUSINESSES RUN BY TEH JOOS


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You know how many business are run by Jews?


You didn't. Surely not.

You did? Shit just got real.

COME ON THEN FRIDGE LIST ALL THE BUSINESSES RUN BY TEH JOOS


It's not a bad thing :S Most of Switzerland's economic forces (albeit not the banks) are run, or were founded, or initially funded by Jews. Manor, for one. It doesn't matter that they were Jews, my point was simply that Jews are a part of Switzerland's culture.

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It's not a bad thing :S Most of Switzerland's economic forces (albeit not the banks) are run, or were founded, or initially funded by Jews. Manor, for one. It doesn't matter that they were Jews, my point was simply that Jews are a part of Switzerland's culture.


Do you have any actual proof for this? Listing some people with German names is not proof.


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It's not a bad thing :S Most of Switzerland's economic forces (albeit not the banks) are run, or were founded, or initially funded by Jews. Manor, for one. It doesn't matter that they were Jews, my point was simply that Jews are a part of Switzerland's culture.


Do you have any actual proof for this? Listing some people with German names is not proof.


Not at the moment, but I learned it in my history class, that's all I can say. Swiss people are respectful of Judaism, and embrace them as part of our economic basis as well as part of our culture.

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It's not a bad thing :S Most of Switzerland's economic forces (albeit not the banks) are run, or were founded, or initially funded by Jews. Manor, for one. It doesn't matter that they were Jews, my point was simply that Jews are a part of Switzerland's culture.


Do you have any actual proof for this? Listing some people with German names is not proof.


Not at the moment, but I learned it in my history class, that's all I can say. Swiss people are respectful of Judaism, and embrace them as part of our economic basis as well as part of our culture.


So that's why they wouldn't give those holocaust survivors that money. I see.


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Goat wrote:
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It's not a bad thing :S Most of Switzerland's economic forces (albeit not the banks) are run, or were founded, or initially funded by Jews. Manor, for one. It doesn't matter that they were Jews, my point was simply that Jews are a part of Switzerland's culture.


Do you have any actual proof for this? Listing some people with German names is not proof.


Not at the moment, but I learned it in my history class, that's all I can say. Swiss people are respectful of Judaism, and embrace them as part of our economic basis as well as part of our culture.


So that's why they wouldn't give those holocaust survivors that money. I see.


Sorry, what are you referring to?

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http://www.giussani.com/holocaust-asset ... sites.html
http://www.swissbankclaims.com/
http://www.allbusiness.com/middle-east/ ... 703-1.html

I'm being tongue-in-cheek, so don't take this as a serious assault.


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Oh, yeah. Not our proudest moment, admittedly. I think the general trend post WWII has been one of assimilation and trying to make amends. I've never met an anti-Semitic Swiss, never seen anti-Semitism in politics, never seen it in the media, never seen it in entertainment. Definitely the impression of the Jewish role in Swiss history that I got from public school was a favourable one.

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Once again, science uses its awesome powers to tell us what we already know:
http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscienc ... _image.php

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I fucking hate muslims and will kill one in time.


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I fucking hate muslims and will kill one in time.


I should probably take note of your IP and pass it on to the appropriate authorities.


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I fucking hate muslims and will kill one in time.


I should probably take note of your IP and pass it on to the appropriate authorities.


Then you don't listen to heavy metal.


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