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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:47 pm 
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As for the girl wanting to drop the charges, of course she would want to keep out of the public eye, her rape at the age of 13. It's not because she feels justice has been served, surely?


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The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


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The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the civil lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt after the $600,000 payment, she no longer cared if he was sentenced. It might have even been a condition of the settlement.


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.


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warfleloup wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.
Basic social contract wherein offenses against one are an offense to all, the social fabric of our nation.

Edit: Failing at grammar like crazy.


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traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.
Basic social contract wherein offenses against one are offense to all, the social fabric of our nation.

Bullshit system.


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warfleloup wrote:
How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.


He already plead guilty. People forget this.


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.


He already plead guilty. People forget this.

And then the charges were dropped after he settled with the victim. Case closed.
Thank you and goodnight.


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warfleloup wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.
Basic social contract wherein offenses against one are offense to all, the social fabric of our nation.

Bullshit system.
So if a murderer could pay off the family of his victims it'd be acceptable for him to run amok?


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He already plead guilty. People forget this.

And then the charges were dropped after he settled with the victim. Case closed.
Thank you and goodnight.


Charges can't be dropped after you plead guilty as far as I know.

If he wants a discharge, then fine. Show up and argue for that during sentencing. But you have to show up first.

EDIT: Again, there is no "case". The case was closed when he plead guilty. The lawsuit settlement cannot change that fact. Although I'm guessing judge would likely take that into consideration when sentencing. I dunno .. maybe Polanski believes he won't get fair treatment due to his high profile. But to me, a discharge seems a likely option.


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traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.
Basic social contract wherein offenses against one are offense to all, the social fabric of our nation.

Bullshit system.
So if a murderer could pay off the family of his victims it'd be acceptable for him to run amok?

It isn't the same.
Did he kill someone? No.
Did the girl/woman lived a normal life and asked for the whole thing to stop? Yes.
What more do you need?
I'm not saying Roman Polanski isn't guilty or that what he did was not awful, I'm just saying that the court should respect the decision of the victim.


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Yeah. What's the public interest in the prosecution? Absolutely zilch.

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If this was any of our kids that this had happened to I hope that each one of you would want to see him flayed alive with tar smeared across his wounds Foucault style.


Er, no, what the fuck. This is not how justice works, that it gets more draconian if you know the victim or less if you don't.


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warfleloup wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
warfleloup wrote:
The case was settled, wasn't it?
You may think the punishment didn't fit the crime but a case settled is closed.
And even when the woman (she is now) asked for the charges to be dropped, the crazy kept on.


The case wasn't settled. What was settled was the lawsuit between Polanski and the girl. No doubt $600,000 was enough in persuading her to ask for the charges to be dropped.


How can a case continue when the charges have been dropped by the victim is beyond me.
Crazy America.
Basic social contract wherein offenses against one are offense to all, the social fabric of our nation.

Bullshit system.
So if a murderer could pay off the family of his victims it'd be acceptable for him to run amok?

It isn't the same.
Did he kill someone? No.
Did the girl/woman lived a normal life and asked for the whole thing to stop? Yes.
What more do you need?
I'm not saying Roman Polanski isn't guilty or that what he did was not awful, I'm just saying that the court should respect the decision of the victim.
You're right. If anything murder is kinder than rape and sodomy. She lived a normal life with the pain and trauma of being raped at a young age. As normal as that life could be. She asked for it to stop to keep it out of the press and to prevent further humiliation, not for the reason that Polanski didn't deserve any further punishment than a monetary loss. The decision of the victim is fine but the fact that Polanski is a rapist predator who could walk the streets after his monetary settlement provides no protection towards the rest of society.


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Yeah. What's the public interest in the prosecution? Absolutely zilch.

Exactly.

And, Trapt, Polanski is not a predator. He's a man who made mistakes once and never again.


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You're right. If anything murder is kinder than rape and sodomy. She lived a normal life with the pain and trauma of being raped at a young age. As normal as that life could be. She asked for it to stop to keep it out of the press and to prevent further humiliation, not for the reason that Polanski didn't deserve any further punishment than a monetary loss. The decision of the victim is fine but the fact that Polanski is a rapist predator who could walk the streets after his monetary settlement provides no protection towards the rest of society.


Jesus, you should write for populist tabloids with retarded stuff like that. Yes, now that Roman Polanski has 'got away with it' he is totally going to wander the streets looking for children to screw.


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You're right. If anything murder is kinder than rape and sodomy. She lived a normal life with the pain and trauma of being raped at a young age. As normal as that life could be. She asked for it to stop to keep it out of the press and to prevent further humiliation, not for the reason that Polanski didn't deserve any further punishment than a monetary loss. The decision of the victim is fine but the fact that Polanski is a rapist predator who could walk the streets after his monetary settlement provides no protection towards the rest of society.


Jesus, you should write for populist tabloids with retarded stuff like that. Yes, now that Roman Polanski has 'got away with it' he is totally going to wander the streets looking for children to screw.

At over 70 I'm sure his libido and impulse for underage sex partners is bigger than ever... :rolleyes:


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Goat wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
You're right. If anything murder is kinder than rape and sodomy. She lived a normal life with the pain and trauma of being raped at a young age. As normal as that life could be. She asked for it to stop to keep it out of the press and to prevent further humiliation, not for the reason that Polanski didn't deserve any further punishment than a monetary loss. The decision of the victim is fine but the fact that Polanski is a rapist predator who could walk the streets after his monetary settlement provides no protection towards the rest of society.


Jesus, you should write for populist tabloids with retarded stuff like that. Yes, now that Roman Polanski has 'got away with it' he is totally going to wander the streets looking for children to screw.
There have been other accounts of him sexually assaulting young women. He doesn't have to prowl the streets when he has enough social capital to find them at auditions or parties which he attends.

It isn't even so much about him committing the crime again. He should be actually punished for the first account.


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traptunderice wrote:
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traptunderice wrote:
You're right. If anything murder is kinder than rape and sodomy. She lived a normal life with the pain and trauma of being raped at a young age. As normal as that life could be. She asked for it to stop to keep it out of the press and to prevent further humiliation, not for the reason that Polanski didn't deserve any further punishment than a monetary loss. The decision of the victim is fine but the fact that Polanski is a rapist predator who could walk the streets after his monetary settlement provides no protection towards the rest of society.


Jesus, you should write for populist tabloids with retarded stuff like that. Yes, now that Roman Polanski has 'got away with it' he is totally going to wander the streets looking for children to screw.
There have been other accounts of him sexually assaulting young women. He doesn't have to prowl the streets when he has enough social capital to find them at auditions or parties which he attends.

Proofs? Criminal Record?
If not, STFU.


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Yeah, sauce please, and something more than 'I was at a party in the 70s and I saw Roman talking to a young lady'.


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It isn't even so much about him committing the crime again. He should be actually punished for the first account.

Lame edit.


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