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I'm going for Obama, since he is articulate, intelligent and honest.

Come to think of it, he will never make President with those qualities...

Perhaps. It is not far from the truth though... That's the kind of stuff that could make me vote for Obama if I lived in the US. I probably would anyway though... Obama it is.

Yeah I would probably still support Obama anyway as well.

When Hillary claims her husband's presidency as experience, it should have a negative connotation. Her husband failed to reform the tax system, healthcare, education and he failed to act against bin Laden after he bombed the USS Cole. Since he did nothing to reform taxed and education, he allowed Bush to and look at the shitty situation we have now with the rich not paying taxes and public education being fucked since it is geared towards standardized testing and struggling schools don't get money but successful schools do, allowing the struggling children to continue struggling ad nauseum.

And that is why I will vote for Obama not to mention he is articulate, intelligent and is willing to tell people what they don't want to hear like his guns and religion statement. I saw him speak at my college and the man incites a crowd like a pentecostal church. People being that enthusiastic about politics can't be a bad thing. Hillary backed down in the 90s when she tried to support a universal health care bill so her past record doesn't look good for her succeeding in getting it passed now. Obama really has the charisma and intelligence to push America towards a social democracy. Do English and French citizens like their social democracies?

Well, us Euro types are never satisfied with anything. Always room for improvement, especially here.

Not just yours... Since Sarkozy got elected more and more voices raise in discontentment... The man is just throwing France's social values down the ladder to please his rich kapitalist friends.

Sarkozy is very influenced by his friend Silvio.

Well, not that it matters since she has virtually no shot at this point, but I would never vote for Hillary. First, she's indebted to a dizzying number of PAC's, lobbyists, and special interest groups. Kinda reminds me of some d-bag named George Bush. Second, her healthcare reform plan will NEVER work in this country. It sounds nice on paper, but it would be an abject failure if ever put into action. Third, and perhaps most important, she just comes off as crass and overly self-righteous to me. I think in a day and age where the world opinion of the US is as low as its ever been in my lifetime, we need a likeable President who people can relate to, not a prick.

I'm generally a fence sitter who leans a little to the right, and I find things to like about both McCain and Obama. I'll be anxious to get this Hillary v. Obama crap out of the way and get to the meat of the election (debates, etc.). That said, even though I'm not entirely sure who I'll be voting for yet, if the race were McCain v. Obama, I wouldn't be extremely upset with the outcome either way, which would be a first.

Heh... can you remember recommending that Carla Bruni CD to me? Funny how things turn out.

I voted for Obama, although I'm not really well-informed on the differences in his policy and Clinton's policy.

Just out of curiosity, what makes it such a failure?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l3/ki ... 52ee4d.gif

Best thing ever.

Well, I won't go into a diatribe about universal healthcare, but here goes the short and sweet version. If universal (read: free) healthcare were adopted in the US, there would be a lot of problems, but two really stand out to me:

-Much higher tax rates
-Ridiculously long waiting lists for treatment of many illnesses

I used to be all in favor of it, after all, it does work quite well in some European countries and its free. After looking into it a bit more though, I just don't think it will work in our specific economy. Mind you, I'm still all in favor of healthcare reform and reducing healthcare costs, but making it free would cause more problems than solutions in my mind.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Vote2008/story ... 059&page=1


i really hope she just means they will attack Iran if Iran uses nukes...?

Not necessarily, you could just shuffle some spending around (the money spent on the war in Iraq could probably fund a universal healthcare system for many years on its own)

But also, I'd bet a great deal that the tax you'd pay for it would be less than what a lot of Americans are spending on health insurance and other medical expenses such as pills etc at the moment.

For young people that look after themselves well and don't have underlying conditions it would be more expensive (because they would only need very minimal health insurance), but for most other people I am not so sure.

In fairness she does mean she'd obliterate them if they attacked Israel, which is extremely unlikely.

But I don't like her answer anyway, I would have prefered her to point out that Iran doesn't actually have any nuclear weapons and therefore such a situation is impossible. I don't think all the fighting talk does much good for anyone, really.

yeah i've heard that the US's healthcare system spends twice as much as countries that have better system's, but that might have been from an ad for Sicko and i'm not sure if it was per capita.

I think it's per capita

http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/chcm010307oth.cfm

hillary won pennsylvania... Man I can't stand that womans face... shes so.... bleh

You may be right, but the more I research universal healthcare, the more I just don't think it will work very well here. With how much our nation is already in debt (mostly due to the Iraq war), I don't think the government would have any choice but to severly spike tax rates if universal healthcare was adopted to pay the providers close to what they make now.

I'm of the opinion that the US houses the finest doctors, surgeons, etc in the world. Of course, that's because they get paid more over here than they would anywhere else due to the higher healthcare rates here. If universal HC was enacted, that might not be the case anymore. Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I would much rather have a President who will look into reducing HC costs to citizens and tweaking the system rather than a complete overhaul.

EDIT: For example, let's say that, using the link rio provided, the government had to raise taxes enough to equal an extra $5,711 per person to cover healthcare costs. That would cost my household an extra $17,133 in taxes, whereas we pay about $3,600 per year for health and dental insurance, and maybe $1000 in out of pocket/co-pay for treatment. I'm not sure if I'm looking at that table in the right light, but if so, I'd be looking at paying an extra $12K or so to get universal healthcare. No thanks.