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trapt yes that's exactly right it's made using buffalo milk, and has a bit of a different taste to regular mozzarella

the ice cream I made turned out perfectly as well, fuck I am good


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After dealing with government bureaucracy including idiotic voice menus, non-functioning software, forms that require multuple confirmation of same fucking fact, tons of pointless identity reaffirmation checks and clueless staffI feel like committing fucking genocide.


I'm glad the Muslims are gonna take over. THE WEST AND ITS ANAL FUCKING RETENTIVE PROCESS FOCUSED TECH OBSESSED RETARDATION NEEDS TO DIE!

Hitler and Stalin had the right methods, just flawed goals. Their goals should've been the eradication of humanity.

KILL. FUCKING. EVERYONE!


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I am back from my business trip in Fiji.

It went monumentally, catastophically wrong.

If anyone remembers how posted that I was kind of terrified about what might go wrong, well, all that I thought might go wrong did, and then a whole bunch of shit I couldn't have imagined would go wrong also went wrong. I'm pretty sure the trip has utterly destroyed the relationship between the two companies.

Literally the only positive is that I'm not going to lose my job because the company I work for believes my version of events and is supporting me in the ensuing conflict.

EDIT: You can't imagine how stressful these last few days have been for me. I had to get some valium from my mum just to avoid a nervous breakdown.


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That sucks.

I suppose it's expected when dealing with the third world.


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sorry to hear that thrash.


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That sucks.

I suppose it's expected when dealing with the third world.


:lol:

You're fucked.


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sorry to hear it thrash, wish things had gone better for you

worst thing to happen to me in the last few days has been drinking a bad beer, Mexicans should stick to making Tequila...

shit hope no one finds that offensive it wasn't meant to be


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
I am back from my business trip in Fiji.

It went monumentally, catastophically wrong.

If anyone remembers how posted that I was kind of terrified about what might go wrong, well, all that I thought might go wrong did, and then a whole bunch of shit I couldn't have imagined would go wrong also went wrong. I'm pretty sure the trip has utterly destroyed the relationship between the two companies.

Literally the only positive is that I'm not going to lose my job because the company I work for believes my version of events and is supporting me in the ensuing conflict.

EDIT: You can't imagine how stressful these last few days have been for me. I had to get some valium from my mum just to avoid a nervous breakdown.


Darn. Worth telling details? Glad your company is behind you.


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Shit Thrash, that really sucks. Hearing stories like this makes me prolong the completion of my masters degree, for a year or two, and continue working part time sucky jobs. At least now I don't feel any preasure or stress, and with greater responsibility comes greater fucking stress and gray hair before 28. It's getting to us.


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no stress in my chosen career path lol

if I lose a case the guy goes to jail and if I win he's innocent and not a criminal...getting to the point where I can practice in criminal law however is EXTREMELY stressful


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Goat wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
I am back from my business trip in Fiji.

It went monumentally, catastophically wrong.

If anyone remembers how posted that I was kind of terrified about what might go wrong, well, all that I thought might go wrong did, and then a whole bunch of shit I couldn't have imagined would go wrong also went wrong. I'm pretty sure the trip has utterly destroyed the relationship between the two companies.

Literally the only positive is that I'm not going to lose my job because the company I work for believes my version of events and is supporting me in the ensuing conflict.

EDIT: You can't imagine how stressful these last few days have been for me. I had to get some valium from my mum just to avoid a nervous breakdown.


Darn. Worth telling details? Glad your company is behind you.


Yeah, I don't mind telling the story. I'm more relaxed now that I'm back home.

Umm, ok. So I originally typed out a version of this that was quite literally 10 paragraphs before it even got to the story of what happened, because in order to get the full story with the proper details you need a lot of background for context. It got to the point where it was preposterously long. I've done away with all that and will give you an enormously, insanely, ridiculously simplified version of the events. It was kind of painful to delete after I spent 45 minutes writing it but reading back over it I realised it was a joke, no one would have read it. This one is still kind of long, but less ridiculously so.

We develop and sell EFTPOS technology. A bank which is our customer asked me to come to fiji to provide training for servicing the devices. My area of expertise is EXTREMELY limited to the basic mechanical hardware functions of the device. I manage manufacturing. I understand NOTHING about the extrememly complex software programming of the device. I tried to make this very clear to their management. Anyway, those issues cannot be fixed in the field. They said they understood. I didn't understand why the hell they would need me if they understood this, which is why i was originally nervous about the trip. I made several phone calls trying to ensure they did, in fact, understand. Unfortunately, even though they constantly assured me that they did, they either did not actually understand, or simply did not relate this information to the people I was meant to train. It was a monumental failure of communication amongst the levels of management at their company.

I arrived, with a box full of spare parts and a screwdriver, under the impression I was going to show a group of people who know nothing about nothing how to unscrew components and replace them. REALLY simple stuff. The people who I was there to train, in turned out, were EXPERTS in banking technology. After 15 minutes of being there (I got to Fiji at 8am and was at their office by 9am, no sleep except for a couple of hours in economy class) they were all looking at me like I was a fucking moron.

They told me they're not idiots and they know how to unscrew shit and replace it. They wanted to know about complex programming shit. They proceeded to ask me questions about complex programming shit for about 2 or 3 hours, and I literally could not answer ANY of those questions. It was 3 hours of "i don't know" and "I'll try to find out". This was enourmously embarrasing. Even more embarrassing was that after the 3 hours, the team leader asked, in front of everyone, if I even work for the company that I said I worked for, and if so, what do I do there as I clearly have no idea what im talking about. As I stuttered trying to answer the question, the team leader said something in Fijian and everyone laughed at me. Mortified doesn't even begin to describe how I felt.

So in amongst a few other things, this was the first day. I got back to my hotel and called my boss and explained the situation. I told him there was nothing there for me to do and I would like to come home. He was fucking pissed off because he knew that I had told their management SEVERAL times that I was not a software guy and would be teaching rudimentary mechanical bullshit. He called their boss and they got into a verbal fight.

The next morning, 8 am, I go back into their office. Their C.O.O. calls me into his office, and is FUCKING pissed off with me because of the phone call he received. I'm 26 right, so in front of his team, he accused me of being a homesick mommy's boy that was too young and unprofessional to do his job properly, claimed that it what I told my boss was a ridiculous lie, and DEMANDED that I go back downstairs to finish the training that they had paid for me to come and do. I tried to tell him his team already knew more than me, but he wasn't having it. He was very intimidating so I went back and did as told. I spent the next entire day teaching a group of highly trained, skilled bank tech professionals how to unscrew bits and bobs and the entire time they were chatting in fijian and laughing at me. I wish I was exaggerating.

After that day I called my boss again, explained the day to him, and he put me on the next flight home a day early. Now our two companies are kind of at war. Each side is claiming the other is highly unprofessional.

If all this seems a bit ridiculous, as I said, I typed a version that was 10 times longer with a lot more detail, but it was far too much. This is the basic jist of it.

Most stressful two days of my life.


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Jesus, the frigging ineptitude of some people... Glad you're not being blamed, anyway.


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holy shit Thrash that's fucking awful, it's all on them for failing at even the most basic level to ensure they would be getting what they needed, then throwing a temper tantrum when their complete incompetence bit them on the ass, I suspect because of this incident they'll send teams of at least two overseas from now on

shit and I thought studying law was stressful...


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Damn Thrash, sorry you had such a fucked up experience and I hope things get a bit better in the days ahead. I am glad to hear your company has your back, and the only advice I can give is to keep your head high and proffesionalism at the front, regardless of the retards you have to deal with. No matter who is getting in your face never forget that the only thing that seperates them from you is numbers, and numbers dont mean shit next to diginity and respect. Stick to the high ground man, sounds like you are handling your business well.


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the good thing is the company is on your side. from what you said it doesn't look like the other side will admit any fault, but hey.

is your company billing the others for the whole trip + training time? like even if it's the other people's fault, accepting some compromise whilst making it clear that you don't treat an employee, yours or someone else's, like that might help fix things and let you guys keep a client. dunno. high level stuff i guess.


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Azrael wrote:
the good thing is the company is on your side. from what you said it doesn't look like the other side will admit any fault, but hey.

is your company billing the others for the whole trip + training time? like even if it's the other people's fault, accepting some compromise whilst making it clear that you don't treat an employee, yours or someone else's, like that might help fix things and let you guys keep a client. dunno. high level stuff i guess.


Yeah, they originally paid for my flights, tickets and accomodation. They also were paying my company a fee for my presence, since I was away from my regular duties.

My company paid for the changing fees to make the flights earlier, plus we also paid for one night of accomodation because I ended up getting stuck for a night in transit. None of that stuff was terribly expensive, so that was no problem.

And yeah, as you said it's all about reaching a compromise now. We have an excellent customer relations guy on the staff here, and he is taking care of the fallout. He's very good at taking emotion out of things (which my boss, our CEO, isn't. That's why he called up and got angry, and it's also why I ended up on a sudden flight home, which was awesome for me under the circumstances, but also pretty drastic).

So our customer relations guy in contact with them now and he's very good at being calm and reasonable in getting the message across that we are very unhappy with the way I was hosted and that we feel we have done nothing wrong. It helps matters that recently they sent some representatives to Melbourne and we hosted them like royalty and they had nothing to complain about, so that kind of puts us in a good position with negotiating how to proceed from here.

Thanks for all the support, everyone. Ever since I got back the whole thing seems a lot funnier in retrospect and I'm totally fine now. At the time it was awful, but yeah, I can see how it's absurd and funny.


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what the hell, yesterday top of 40 degrees C, today, 19 degrees C and raining, Adelaide's weather is fucking bipolar I swear


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Went to a coworkers apartment tonight. We played Heroes of Might and Magic, Smash Brokthers, Mortal Combat, Magic Cards, smoked weed. Flashback to ten years ago. Wasn't all that fun. meh.


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i just drink beer with myself or with other people and listen to metal..

in the day time i shoot hoops and lift weights.

just finished college, gotta find a job again.


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finally, finally back at the velodrome tonight, bloody brilliant, I'm sure by now you all know I'm vision impaired so it should come as no surprise it's tandem bikes with a sighted person up the front, anyway flying 200s was the order of the night (after low and mid tempo warm ups then a couple of seventy percent effort laps) paralympic tandem cyclists will do this in about 11.5 seconds, our group are about six sessions in with the last session being three weeks ago, quickest guy in our group (who has been cycling for about eighteen months on tandem road bikes) did it in 12.89 seconds, I did two (and before this stuff I hadn't been on any sort of bike, not even an excercise bike, for seven years) first effort was 14.14 seconds, second effort was 13.59 seconds so I'm feeling pretty pleased with myself although my legs are screaming "what have you done to us" very loudly at me


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